Repost: Hollywood Park ePoker Room Shut Down

[*TT*]

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Wow, I never did get to play. I think I remember last year this being posted and a few people thinking it was the end of live poker as we knew it, lol. I guess there is a reason some live players don't play online.

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Re-read the OP. He never said they were getting rid of the tables, they are closing the room.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Very funny TT. Do you keep copies of your posts? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Not hard, we keep getting the same responses!

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Now we need the post that got you to reply about being disappointed that more of the B&M regulars don't post more in the strategy forums. My reply to that was Monday just before the board went back in time.

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as requested - lets do the time warp again!

[Rottersod]

It would be better as its own thread.

[RushnRocket]

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The regular floor will probably not want to hang around and teach noobs how to use the table and I can see how players would get frustrated every time their game slows to a crawl as someone new joins.

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I think I read a thread about a week ago on this "epoker" table where there is no dealer. The discussion generally focused on peoples opinion on whether it was a good thing or not etc. However, no one really explained how such a game functioned. Are there cards and chips at the table? Is there a touch screen in front of everyone? I have no clue?
Would anyone please clue me in on this epoker so that I will not slow the game down in case I ever encounter one of these.
(There is no epoker in AC right?)

[po-Jay-to]

As the former ePoker Room Manager, I can confirm that the ePoker Room is officially closed. Hollywood Park Casino (HPC) has chosed to keep 2 of the 10-seat tables running in the main poker room. The Heads-up tables have been removed completely.
I'm not sure exactly how HPC will staff/support the 2 tables but I agree with previous posts that it will take some additional effort to keep the 2 tables going. They don't run themselves but it doesn't take much training to get the existing staff to take on the additional responsibilities.

As the for future of ePoker, I believe that it is the future of small stakes poker. I'm not sure when, but it is a net win/win for the player and casino. For everyone who says they like to "touch cards and shuffle chips", I really believe what they are saying is that they prefer to play Poker in a manner that they are currently familiar-- and are reluctant to change. It is the same game, which combines the benefits of on-line poker (speed, accuracy, etc.) with the face-to-face play of live play. Since no one is a fan of dealer error or 25 hands/hr., I can only imagine that people prefer to keep the status quo which is well within their comfort zone.

If you keep the thousands of dollars per day in dealer tokes on the table and deal over twice as many hands per hours with out a single misdeal or player acting out-of-turn, a benefit to both player and casino, it's hard to imagine that this can't eventually appeal to both sides of the poker game (player and casino).
It will take time for acceptance and I believe one day, some players will be able to "pay extra" for a nostalgic live game of poker instead of the "computer tables" and find that if making money is the objective of poker, then live poker makes achieving less achievable.

Go ahead and post your abuse regarding my post. In my newly acquired spare time, I will try to defend my position (it will be my new hobby).
Go for it.

[rgold79]

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As the former ePoker Room Manager, I can confirm that the ePoker Room is officially closed. Hollywood Park Casino (HPC) has chosed to keep 2 of the 10-seat tables running in the main poker room. The Heads-up tables have been removed completely.
I'm not sure exactly how HPC will staff/support the 2 tables but I agree with previous posts that it will take some additional effort to keep the 2 tables going. They don't run themselves but it doesn't take much training to get the existing staff to take on the additional responsibilities.

As the for future of ePoker, I believe that it is the future of small stakes poker. I'm not sure when, but it is a net win/win for the player and casino. For everyone who says they like to "touch cards and shuffle chips", I really believe what they are saying is that they prefer to play Poker in a manner that they are currently familiar-- and are reluctant to change. It is the same game, which combines the benefits of on-line poker (speed, accuracy, etc.) with the face-to-face play of live play. Since no one is a fan of dealer error or 25 hands/hr., I can only imagine that people prefer to keep the status quo which is well within their comfort zone.

If you keep the thousands of dollars per day in dealer tokes on the table and deal over twice as many hands per hours with out a single misdeal or player acting out-of-turn, a benefit to both player and casino, it's hard to imagine that this can't eventually appeal to both sides of the poker game (player and casino).
It will take time for acceptance and I believe one day, some players will be able to "pay extra" for a nostalgic live game of poker instead of the "computer tables" and find that if making money is the objective of poker, then live poker makes achieving less achievable.

Go ahead and post your abuse regarding my post. In my newly acquired spare time, I will try to defend my position (it will be my new hobby).
Go for it.

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You definitely make some very compelling and I won't disagree with you.

But having played quite a bit of poker at HPC myself, can you honestly imagine some of the people who play low limit poker there using the ePoker tables? I don't mean to come off as snobby or elitist, but some of the people who play there can barely lift their heads up by virtue of intoxication, etc.. The tables take a basic minimum of techonological savvy to be used and many people just don't have that.

[po-Jay-to]

Rgold-
The initial motivation for HPC to open the ePoker Room was to have something new that was a draw for new people to come to HPC and play poker. Everyone thought that the tables would create a new market for the B&M casinos. HPC was not interested in having any existing live game players transfer over to ePoker (they did want to attract the tourney players who just left the casino after they were knocked out). They wanted new players-- this "draw" did not occur and consequently the room never took off.

We agree on the liklihood of the existing low limit player at HPC embracing ePoker. Perhaps other locales will not have this same issue.
Thanks for the feedback.

[pfapfap]

Way to come off as combative. Interesting how the first post says it's so live players can make more, yet second post says it's to attract new players.

I think electronic tables are the future, and much sooner than anyone things. It takes less than a generation for the "status quo" to become a relic of the old.

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appeal to both sides of the poker game (player and casino)

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Some dealers would disagree with your categorization.

[Paul Levy]

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Go ahead and post your abuse regarding my post. In my newly acquired spare time, I will try to defend my position (it will be my new hobby). Go for it.

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This forum is very well behaved so why expect abuse. I concur with you, and I believe it might be the future of mom-and-pops nickel-and-dime poker.

However I doubt it will ever be accepted in half-serious games (Say, 5-10 and above), I for one would rather stop playing altogether than travel to a casino to stare at a pc screen.

[DWarrior]

is this in any way comparable to the old slot machines with the cranks switching to an LCD screen and a "bet" button?

[rgold79]

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is this in any way comparable to the old slot machines with the cranks switching to an LCD screen and a "bet" button?

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Not really. Video slots require one button to tell you how many credits you can bet, something most people are conceptually aware of, and another button with 'SPIN' in large letters. They also leave the handle on for people to pull if they so desire.

ePoker tables require someone to be able to check their hole cards correctly, follow action as it moves around the table, input their own desire to fold, call or raise correctly including bet amounts where necessary, all while their opponents around the table attempt to deceive them. There is considerably more sensory focus necessary to play ePoker than there is to mechanically spin a slot machine. Same as the live game.