tptk raised on turn

bettlejuice · #1 06-10-2007, 09:16 AM

nl100 six handed

hero bets $4 utg with A K , 2 fold, Button cals, blinds fold

flop ($9.5): 2 8 K rainbow

hero bets $8, villain calls.

turn: ($25.5): 9

hero bets $19, villain raises to $57, hero?

no reads full stacks

ty in advance

rberg · #2 06-10-2007, 09:22 AM

without a read it's a fold...eventhough it hurts

JackAll · #3 06-10-2007, 09:31 AM

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without a read it's a fold...eventhough it hurts

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I agree. What hand wants to get all their money in that we beat?

bettlejuice · #4 06-10-2007, 10:28 AM

ty both, if there was a possible draw (by example two hearts on the flop a possible straigh draw etc) are you pushing instead of folding? (At least vs and agresive villain) im raising a lot my strong draws on the turn

rberg · #5 06-10-2007, 10:33 AM

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(At least vs and agresive villain) im raising a lot my strong draws on the turn

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This is a good play vs. good players , but i dont see many typicals play like this, cause too many typicals cant lay down tp here.

rberg · #6 06-10-2007, 10:36 AM

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ty both, if there was a possible draw (by example two hearts on the flop a possible straigh draw etc) are you pushing instead of folding?

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Those are mostly tough decisions and it depends a lot on the exact board and player.
Your example 28K with fd isnt perfect to shove over a raise imo, cause the fd is the only possible draw and i believe that people tend not to semi-bluff-raise on K or A hi flops, cause it's more likely the pfr raiser hit that himself.

chaide · #7 06-10-2007, 11:01 AM

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(At least vs and agresive villain) im raising a lot my strong draws on the turn

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This is a good play vs. good players , but i dont see many typicals play like this, cause too many typicals cant lay down tp here.

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ty again your advice sounds good.im afraid im one of these typical that dont fold tptk here...so im semi-typical as i fold tp here but i find tough to fold tptk/overpairs here.

Anycall · #8 06-10-2007, 11:26 AM

baluga

JackAll · #9 06-11-2007, 12:51 AM

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ty both, if there was a possible draw (by example two hearts on the flop a possible straigh draw etc) are you pushing instead of folding? (At least vs and agresive villain) im raising a lot my strong draws on the turn

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If there was a draw on the flop and he raises turn, I would still fold. Raising turn is different to raising the flop.