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  #41  
Old 11-05-2007, 06:16 PM
HeroInBlack HeroInBlack is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

Why are you guys advocating a fold when he was a 20-4 favorite?

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Old 11-05-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

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EZ fold preflop in full ring especially if villains are sick LAGs.

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FYP
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:02 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

The guy with KK in this hand was drawing pretty thin, since I folded the other two preflop, but of course he got there.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Profiles and Stacks:
UTG pedro41(<font color="#0000cc">$51.45</font>) <font color="#cc0000">11.9</font>/<font color="#cc0000">4.4</font>/1.8 (<font color="#0000cc">2267</font>)
UTG+1 W84PAINT(<font color="#0000cc">$61.10</font>) 23.6/<font color="#cc0000">8.0</font>/2.2 (<font color="#0000cc">1124</font>)
MP In the Red(<font color="#0000cc">$50.30</font>) 29.9/<font color="#cc0000">3.0</font>/1.2 (<font color="#0000cc">134</font>)
CO donkadunk87(<font color="#0000cc">$76.55</font>) 21.6/<font color="#cc0000">4.1</font>/3.0 (<font color="#0000cc">74</font>)
BTN Hero(<font color="#0000cc">$53.30</font>) <font color="#cc0000">12.0</font>/<font color="#cc0000">4.0</font>/2.0 (<font color="#0000cc">50</font>)
SB rouzmir(<font color="#0000cc">$38.20</font>) 26.0/10.0/1.2 (<font color="#0000cc">50</font>)
BB offtilt69(<font color="#0000cc">$36.70</font>) <font color="#cc0000">16.0</font>/<font color="#cc0000">8.5</font>/<font color="#cc0000">3.0</font> (<font color="#0000cc">1357</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 7 players) Hero is BTN K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, W84PAINT calls $0.5, <font color="#cc0000">In the Red raises to $2</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">offtilt69 raises to $5</font>, <font color="#777777">W84PAINT folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">In the Red raises to $10</font>, <font color="#777777">Hero folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">offtilt69 goes all-in $36.7</font>, In the Red calls $26.7

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($76.15, 2 players)

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($76.15, 2 players)

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($76.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $76.15
offtilt69 shows: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
In the Red shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

offtilt69 wins $73 ( won +$36.3 )
Hero lost -$2.00
W84PAINT lost -$0.50
In the Red lost -$36.70
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Zagga Zagga is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

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EZ fold preflop in full ring unless villains are sick LAGs.

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Old 11-05-2007, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

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9TJQx or a 4 flush, nobody is ever drawing dead PF.

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rubbish. of course people can have 0 equity preflop:

Hero has 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Opponents have:
1) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4) T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]t [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
5) t [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]t [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6) a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
7) a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


The other 22 stops trips; The Fives and Tens stop straights &amp; flushes, and the Aces stop quads.

Someone will always have a bigger kicker on quads, straight flushes on the board are not possible, someone will always have a bigger full house, and so on.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3872433
pokenum -h 2d 2h - 2s 2c - 5s 5c - ts tc - td th - ad ah - as ac
Holdem Hi: 501942 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
2d 2h 66 0.01 498512 99.32 3364 0.67 0.003
2s 2c 0 0.00 498578 99.33 3364 0.67 0.003
5s 5c 124596 24.82 376382 74.99 964 0.19 0.249
Ts Tc 266 0.05 476520 94.94 25156 5.01 0.025
Td Th 266 0.05 476520 94.94 25156 5.01 0.025
Ad Ah 10268 2.05 158948 31.67 332726 66.29 0.351
As Ac 7162 1.43 162054 32.29 332726 66.29 0.345
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

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http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3872433
pokenum -h 2d 2h - 2s 2c - 5s 5c - ts tc - td th - ad ah - as ac
Holdem Hi: 501942 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
2d 2h 66 0.01 498512 99.32 3364 0.67 0.003
2s 2c 0 0.00 498578 99.33 3364 0.67 0.003
5s 5c 124596 24.82 376382 74.99 964 0.19 0.249
Ts Tc 266 0.05 476520 94.94 25156 5.01 0.025
Td Th 266 0.05 476520 94.94 25156 5.01 0.025
Ad Ah 10268 2.05 158948 31.67 332726 66.29 0.351
As Ac 7162 1.43 162054 32.29 332726 66.29 0.345

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you left a round of 55 out.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:53 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

ah, true, me wrong.

2d 2h 0 0.00 376992 100.00 0 0.00 0.000
2s 2c 0 0.00 376992 100.00 0 0.00 0.000
5s 5c 124 0.03 366212 97.14 10656 2.83 0.014
5d 5h 124 0.03 366212 97.14 10656 2.83 0.014
Ts Tc 250 0.07 354470 94.03 22272 5.91 0.030
Td Th 250 0.07 354470 94.03 22272 5.91 0.030
Ad Ah 6682 1.77 40358 10.71 329952 87.52 0.455
As Ac 6682 1.77 40358 10.71 329952 87.52 0.455
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

edit: deleted; post lag; saying what the guy said above about 55
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.

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i dont know why you arbitrarily left out the 5h 5d hand...

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didnt do it on purpose, just wanted to verify your example and typed the hands in too fast. true story.

edit: ok! no hard feelings then.
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