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Old 10-27-2007, 02:45 AM
bakku bakku is offline
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5-bet game in vegas, 1/2 blind structure

weak-tight UTG raises, spazzy unthinking LAG who loves to choose horrible spots to bluff 3-bets in the CO, i call with JJ in the SB

flop is 985r, i check, UTG donks, LAG calls, i call.

turn is a 6 putting a flush draw up, i donk, UTG thinks for a long time then almost folds but decides to call, LAG raises, i look left and see UTG is really upset so i just call.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:54 AM
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I dont mind everything else (probably donk or cr flop), but I would 3bet the turn and get it head up with the LAG.
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:43 AM
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I dont mind everything else (probably donk or cr flop), but I would 3bet the turn and get it head up with the LAG.

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i think it's pretty clear that UTG is folding anyway
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:01 AM
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I dont mind everything else (probably donk or cr flop), but I would 3bet the turn and get it head up with the LAG.

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i think it's pretty clear that UTG is folding anyway

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I read it as he was sick but calling down anyway. You read of it looks right though.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:12 AM
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check/raise flop.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: every decision is debatable

believe it or not, you're usually losing when the lag raises the turn here. This is just a board and situation where lags don't f around. 3-betting is not really as good an option as you hint at in your post bc your hand is prob not worth enough to try and knock utg off TT+ imo.

That said, calling and folding aren't that appealing either so maybe you have to 3-bet. If you do, I think you have to c/f the river UI and that's gonna be kinda hard to do.

Gonna think about this one some more and write back manana...

oh and 4-bet pf so we don't have to think so hard next time dude.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:53 AM
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I'd donk the flop here. If UTG is weak tight, his reaction to your bet is gonna define his hand for you. He likely wouldn't raise AK, so if he does raise my guess would be a bigger pp. As played, I still put him on a bigger pp, and if you feel you have laggy beat, 3 bet turn to make sure you drive weaky out.
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