30/60 Limit Game in Toronto with experienced 50/100+ players 4handed

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care to give any data supporting your lawling? I have a puny 203 hand sample that suggests that Q7o otb is breakeven.


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1) it's 30/60 - rake is a tiny consideration

2) the bb definitely sucks, the sb (op) is mediocre at best. because you dont average a win with it doesnt mean other people wont in specific situations.

3) what that guy above me said. something that is profitable without rake isnt exploitable with rake. if the two blinds were aware of the rake situation and acted accordingly, you should steal OTB with just about any two, and there's nothing you could do to exploit that. and it's for the same reason that the person to shove in an SNG has the edge. because neither person wants to get all in around a bubble, just like no one wants to be in a pot with an increased rake. but by being the first person to shove (or open raising otb) you are deferring that problem to them, and therefor benefitting yourself by picking up the blinds more often than you normally would in non-bubble or unraked circumstances.