Stack-a-donk in 3b pot?

[Casper05]

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Imo he has a worse hand here alot more than a better hand, with a spade draw occasionally.

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[kaby]

*edit* i should pay more attention to stacksizes ... if you really think he's frustrated this is fine

[RiverFenix]

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Imo he has a worse hand here alot more than a better hand, with a spade draw occasionally.

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totally agree. Too many people get wrapped up w/ whats he calling w/ that we beat. Doesnt matter w/ this amount of money in the pot vs his range which is a lot of smaller pairs, air, and spades.

[Striker]

i like it

it gives the villain an opportunity to make a wrong "hero" call with 88-TT, where he probably would not put in any more money on the river since he has good showdown value. In addition, it allows you to get more value out of donks who call with Axss, where they would obviously shut down on a non spade river.

[ajmargarine]

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*edit* i should pay more attention to stacksizes ... if you really think he's frustrated this is fine

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I should say "frustration factor" played no role in this hand. I guess I wasn't completely clear in the OP. I've maybe 3b 3 times at the table so far; doing it to villain once and 2 other guys once each spread out over a normal course of time.

[Snipe]

Love it if he’s one to make hero calls w/ 88-TT which are probably a decent part of his range here. However, I think when he calls here he usually has you beat and you often fold out hands you’re way ahead of. I’m assuming his range is pretty much [AQ / 77 – TT / Air]???

[pr0crast]

I like it against certain regs. But I think its thin, as his range is probably pretty split between hands you beat and hands you don't.

[Snipe]

After reading responses and getting additional color from AJ, I still like it quite a bit.

I'd add, however, that while the guy is getting 3.1:1 on his call and can probably talk himself into it with quite a few hands we crush, he’s correct to call with Axs with 12 outs which worries me if we think that’s a big part of his range.

Edit to reword awkward 1st attempt.

[Djeorge]

Re the "you are behind when called" thing, I don't think that's the issue:
if he has a worse made hand, c/r is best since he isn't betting the river with them.
if he has a better made hand, c/r=c/c because you can't call turn and fold river imo.
if he's drawing, c/r is better
if he has a random bluff, c/c is better, but a pure bluff is pretty unlikely i think.

[Unknown Soldier]

i think this is ok, obv would be better with a looser image. If he bet something like 70 would be worse i think.