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Old 11-19-2007, 04:08 AM
g-p g-p is offline
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Default pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

villian is jeffboston, huge 17/10 nit over 900 hands.

do nits play AK like this ever?

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Button ($894.65)
Hero ($1001.30)
BB ($615.95)
UTG ($954.50)
MP ($778.75)
CO ($351.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $86</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $62.

Flop: ($178) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, UTG calls $120.

Turn: ($418) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $480</font>, Hero calls $255.

River: ($1378) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $268.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $268.50.

Final Pot: $1915
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:13 AM
ogdundar ogdundar is offline
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

Shove the turn as played.

Also I don't mind checking the turn. Think you will have a hard time getting value from a nit by betting there.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

cr turn or at least 3 bet AI.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

yea turn looks stupid but you people arent contributing anything

hes a nit. a huge nit. why would i c/r turn against huge nit?

also 3 betting the turn is a trivial, who cares
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

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yea turn looks stupid but you people arent contributing anything

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Well what are you asking? I think your turn bet really sucks fundamentally. What is the reasoning behind it? You don't want to bet here because a nit doesn't call with worse, and you can possibly get shoved on which is a pretty gross spot for you. I'd rather c/c a small bet or CRAI if I am going to showdown anyways. You don't want him folding if a heart drops on the river (somewhat unlikely due to potodds but fundamentally its a valid point)

You want to fold the river?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:26 AM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

check the turn against him.

flat pre against him.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

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check the turn against him.

flat pre against him.

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whats the highest vpip that we do this vs

like 12?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

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check the turn against him.

flat pre against him.

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whats the highest vpip that we do this vs

like 12?

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i just would rather call this deep and 3-bet him with air
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

I don't mind the bet so much but fold to the raise for sure.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: pretty hand v nit, 150bb deep

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I don't mind the bet so much but fold to the raise for sure.

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Eh? We're getting odds to draw to the flush. And he's never folding the the rest of it when the flush hits anyway. Of course, we probably "can't" make the fold when the flush doesn't hit, so I don't know. Call has to be better than fold anyway.

I'm more interested in not 3 betting preflop. I'm not sure I agree. A lot of the time I don't 3 bet preflop with AK because I view the guy as too nitty, I end up in trouble post flop because I'm not putting the guy on the 75s that he actually has.
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