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Old 11-02-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default AA weird action

Villan has played only a few hands- this is my first orbit. I saw him play this hand here:

(he is the UTG+1)

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $346.50
UTG+1: $391
orange: $400
Button: $360
SB: $645.25
BB: $629.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, orange folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($18, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $10</font>, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks.

Results:
Final pot: $38
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows 5s 9s</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 Shows Jh Js</font>

So yeah. not much to tell there. I think he's obviously missing some value bets.

Anyways, as stated, hero just sat- no image, no history/etc. you bet this turn for sure right? also, note stacks. i don't think 3-betting this flop would be that great but meh.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
orange: $400
UTG+1: $360
CO: $627.25
Button: $629.10
SB: $344.50
BB: $408.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $8</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $24</font>, orange calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($65, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets ...
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: AA weird action

45 dollars, prob fold to anothoer c/r
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:51 PM
TJ Eckleburg12 TJ Eckleburg12 is offline
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Default Re: AA weird action

The ol' check/raise, then check line.

I think the two most likely possibilities here are that he's check-raising what he thinks is a c-bet, or he's going for a 2nd checkraise on the turn and he's probably strong.

I think you should make a pot sized bet on the turn and see if he has the stones to come over the top. If he does... then I don't know what to tell you after that.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: AA weird action

what hands does he c/r turn with that played the flop this way:S
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: AA weird action

I would bet about 50. I wouldn't put too much stock in the missed value in hand 1. A player undervalueing a hand like JJ is just as likely to overvalue some random top pair type hand in this spot. Villains range is mainly f draws and kings.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: AA weird action

i think a bet and a check are both good. check to induce a bluff + keeping the pot small or bet to protect against draws and get value against kings.

i'd bet maybe 70% of the time here. i'd make it about $45
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: AA weird action

I bet $50 and go from there, his line could be all kinds of stuff you beat, and there is value here.
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