Caesar's $1500: Help, I'm Addicted to Suited Connectors

[Todd Terry]

Caesar's $1500+70, 3rd level, 50/100, starting stack 3500, I'm in the BB, I have 2650 after posting. UTG+1 limps, UTG+2 limps, MP2 raises to 300, CO calls, I look down at 65hh. UTG+1 probably doesn't know what a limp/reraise is. MP2 has made a serious of erratic-sized raises which appear to have no correlation to his hand strength, not sure if he even knows that raising to 300 with 2 limpers is an incredibly small raise, he has a big stack having been hit with the deck repeatedly -- middle-aged Eastern European guy. I call, figuring I'm getting 6.5:1 since the 2 limpers will call behind. They do.

Flop: 8 4 3 rainbow, no hearts. There's 1550 in the pot, I now have 2450. Hero?

[registrar]

How does OR play flops?

What are their stacks?

[Todd Terry]

OR has a very big stack, as I said, probably 7-8K. UTG+2, the second limper, also has a big stack, probably 6-7K. The other 2 have around starting stacks of 3500, I believe -- I'm certain no one is short. OR has generally made c-bets of varying sizes in relation to the pot after raising, but those were 2-way pots. In position, he played a set by calling the flop and raising the turn. There haven't been any hands with a raised pot and this many players in, so I have no idea how OR will play here. And, as I said, his bet sizing has been very erratic -- you'd be able to predict the size of one of my c-bets here within 100 chips, with him, I have no idea.

[WarDekar]

This is kind of a [censored] spot because you don't have any FE with anything but leading out, so you probably should lead out with whatever size you think gives you the most FE. I have no idea with these players what that is, but it's not checking through and check/calling sucks because of no FE, so bet?

[adanthar]

4 other people in, right? just CR AI unless his cbet's tiny

[WarDekar]

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4 other people in, right? just CR AI unless his cbet's tiny

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We'd have like no FE that way any c-bet is building the pot enough to where they can't reasonably fold.

[Hattifnatt]

fold or push pre, now bet ~1200 and call a push or push any turn yourself if called. just pushing the flop is fine too but I think betting 1200 shows more strength.

[Mench]

dont call preflop

[adanthar]

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4 other people in, right? just CR AI unless his cbet's tiny

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We'd have like no FE that way any c-bet is building the pot enough to where they can't reasonably fold.

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It's a live donkament. Going all in makes them fold. Just betting out less than all in makes them call with AK.

[JayPez]

agreed i fold preflop, dont think your deep enough to play this despite the good odds.