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Old 10-18-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: 12 left in big mtt hand vs Durrr. Ranges?

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Villain doesnt have a range. Hes opening ATC when action is folded to him, IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]He wasn't THAT aggro, probably a little less than every other time it's folded to him.

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You said he opened 2-3 times per orbit at a shorthanded table.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 12 left in big mtt hand vs Durrr. Ranges?

brandi..where was durr in relation to you? was he opening pots late position or early...I know it's shorthanded but still carries a little weight...

as to small aces...yess they will be the best hand sometimes but very rarely way ahead...at least A8ish is racing with small pairs...as I keep stressing assume you will be called and even if it's a wide range give yourself a hand that plays well against ATC...that being said if by some miracle you are the first in sure...push your A 3 arrr in
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: 12 left in big mtt hand vs Durrr. Ranges?

it had just gotten down to 6 handed, I should have said that was his trend since about 8 handed. He was probably opening 30-35% of the pots
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 12 left in big mtt hand vs Durrr. Ranges?

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it had just gotten down to 6 handed, I should have said that was his trend since about 8 handed. He was probably opening 30-35% of the pots

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anyone play back at him and what was his tendency then?
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:43 PM
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brandi..where was durr in relation to you? was he opening pots late position or early...I know it's shorthanded but still carries a little weight...


[/ QUOTE ] He was in mp and I was to his immediate left either co or button iirc. He was opening from all over the place.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:44 PM
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nobody had 3 bet him yet
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:47 PM
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nobody had 3 bet him yet

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wow...what was buy in? odd that with that frequency he was getting away with it...all the more reason to tighten up to playable hands...if he's a thinking player he will risk calling a shortstack to show others he will protect his opens...he also is playing with house money from the steals...
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:52 PM
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$215, people were calling once in a while and seeing flops, but not much preflop aggression. He's certainly a thinking player...
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: 12 left in big mtt hand vs Durrr. Ranges?

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nobody had 3 bet him yet

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wow...what was buy in? odd that with that frequency he was getting away with it...all the more reason to tighten up to playable hands...if he's a thinking player he will risk calling a shortstack to show others he will protect his opens...he also is playing with house money from the steals...

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He doesnt need to protect, IMO. Hes having his way just quietly taking down blinds and antes. Why ruin a good thing? See, we differ here. His cards are irrelevant to him at this point. If he happens to have a hand one time you 3-bet him; so be it..you still have equity. But, you have more FE than you think, IMO.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:55 PM
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$215, people were calling once in a while and seeing flops, but not much preflop aggression. He's certainly a thinking player...

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You need to open your 3-betting range in these spots, not shrink them.(you probably needed to open them before you got to this depth) Or you will get to 6BBs and be pushing and praying. You still have FE at this point; not much, but some.
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