I don't like my kings so much

[Unknown Soldier]

yeah id call, i think raising this flop is a good idea too, much better then raising the turn anyway

[Jay Riall]

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u cant fold here for game theory reasons

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[CITIZEN_114]

you are right, raise flop and as played call turn.

At least I was right about the not folding comment.

[Alobar]

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you are right, raise flop and as played call turn.

At least I was right about the not folding comment.

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if I raise flop and he shoves, i take it Im calling?

[0evg0]

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you are right, raise flop and as played call turn.

At least I was right about the not folding comment.

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if I raise flop and he shoves, i take it Im calling?

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with a [censored] fist pump

are you kidding me?

[Xanta]

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you are right, raise flop and as played call turn.

At least I was right about the not folding comment.

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if I raise flop and he shoves, i take it Im calling?

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overpairs give people boners, you can't fold this on the flop ever.

[CITIZEN_114]

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you are right, raise flop and as played call turn.

At least I was right about the not folding comment.

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if I raise flop and he shoves, i take it Im calling?

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funny you ask me (an unknown) instead of ignoring me and asking a regular.

But yes, If you raise the flop I think you have to call a shove because you have put a decent amount in the pot already and you are likely playing against a draw that knows you are decent/2p2 and will respect his play a lot.

A 4 is not a big part of his range and 33 is possible, but he has it not often enough to fold (I did not mention it, but there are some overpairs in his range as well that you cruh).

[El_Hombre_Grande]

He could be playing 99 that way bc of your call. He may be reading you for AK/AQ, which is a logical place to put you after you didn't raise him on the flop. Lots of players who are optimistic in decent pots like to go to town like this to prevent AK/AQ from drawing cheap, especially when the board is suited. I always do this to LAGS that I see playing AJ and even A/10 like its the nuts. If its really 33, I would think he would have checked to give someone the chance (you) to continuation bet and possibly hita frush so you might be able to get stacked. Sooooo, with that in mind I raise the turn big. 33 is only one hand, anyways.

[Isura]

I agree with Noah. It is so much better to raise this flop, even if its slightly less EV short term. Now I would keep calling. Your hand is pretty under-repped and I find even tight players make strange bluffs or overplay their mid pairs when an aggressive player like myself takes this type of line.

[Isura]

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u cant fold here for game theory reasons

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???

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Well KK is at the top of our range in this spot... And most people will think a made hand less than KK is still best on the turn (obv that isn't a game theory consideration, but an important one)