I don't like my kings so much

[Alobar]

I havent seen SB do anything out of line, hes like 17/13 after about 90 hands, BB is a fish

His flop donk 3 way screams strong to me, but I cant see him holding a 4, so I guess all Im scared of is 33. Would he play a hand like 99 this way? Do I call turn and fold to a decent river bet?

PokerStars $1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

BB: $170.55
UTG: $208.00
MP: $197.00
CO: $346.95
Button: $233.65
SB: $203.00

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($24.00) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $16</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($56.00) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $37</font>, hero??

[tufat23]

call and then call/raise river or raise turn and call shove. u cant fold here for game theory reasons

[CITIZEN_114]

I would personally never fold KK here when there are so many draws out there.
I think raising the turn is best here, get value from flushdraw(most likely)/56/ and call a shove.

I think he rarely plays 55-TT like this.

[MoP_86]

looks like a draw to me... raise turn call push

[Alobar]

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I would personally never fold KK here when there are so many draws out there.
I think raising the turn is best here, get value from flushdraw(most likely)/56/ and call a shove.

I think he rarely plays 55-TT like this.

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There arent that many draws tho, its doubtful hes got a straight draw, and me holding the Kc knocks off a few of the FD hands he might be calling a raise with from the SB

or am I off on his raise calling range OOP PF?

[CITIZEN_114]

If he really is that good to have a tight range oop, let's suppose he has 33 here.
I think he would bet more on the turn, to represent a flushdraw and get the stacks in.

By betting like this, he will not get the stacks in on the river against what seems like an obvious overpair from you on the turn.

The pot will be ~140$ on the river, and he has 140$ left, imo if he is a good player, he'd bet more with 33 on the turn to have a better chance of getting a rivercall from an overpair.

iow, I think he has a draw here a good amount of the time.

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or am I off on his raise calling range OOP PF?

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I don't know about this. But without a read I usually assume they are not very tight oop even if his preflop stats look decent after &lt;100hands.

just my 0.02$

[Unknown Soldier]

reads on bb?

call and see a river, dont like raising, disagree with tufat about never folding here although i probably wont be able to. game theory? wtf are you on about?

[CITIZEN_114]

US,

if you call. The pot will be 140$. what if he bets 75$ (very likely given his betting pattern so far).

[NoahSD]

Given SB's stats, the hands in his range that beat you are 45s (1 combo), 55 (3 combos), 44 (1 combo) and 55 (3 combos). Then there are a billion hands in his range that you beat like 66-TT, cc, 56, etc etc.

Anyway, you should def raise flop and as played call turn. Call any bet on most rivers.

[sublime]

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US,

if you call. The pot will be 140$. what if he bets 75$ (very likely given his betting pattern so far).

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call