Shuffling at sites - Page 2

Henry17 · #11 10-01-2007, 10:09 AM

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what continuous shuffle means. The way I understood it continuous shuffle means that the next card to be dealt is being repetitively re-generated thus adding entropy based on duration of hand and increasing randomness. As such a PRNG would act very much like a TRNG.

If a site is going to use TRNG to generate every card I don't see the benefit over them just choosing from the ~8E67 possible orderings from the outset and having a predetermined ordering before anything is dealt.

The issue with Planet Poker and PRNG doesn't really apply to continuous shuffling. The issue was that they were limiting the orderings to a fraction of the possible orderings.

Henry17 · #12 10-01-2007, 10:15 AM

That post from the Stars employ led me to check Party's site and they do mention how they "seed" thus they are using a PRNG.

Rzitup · #13 10-01-2007, 01:31 PM

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Party at least used to use continuous shuffle.

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No they didn't.

Alex Scott · #14 10-01-2007, 04:27 PM

I'm pretty sure Full Tilt uses continuous shuffle, although in my opinion there is little practical difference between the two.

poker345 · #15 10-01-2007, 04:56 PM

what is user input and thermal noise ? can someone explain? thermal noise is the pokerstars cpu?

Josem · #16 10-01-2007, 09:34 PM

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what is user input and thermal noise ? can someone explain? thermal noise is the pokerstars cpu?

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thermal noise = heat from a device.

user input = users' mouse movements.

boohaa12 · #17 10-01-2007, 10:27 PM

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what is user input and thermal noise ? can someone explain? thermal noise is the pokerstars cpu?

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thermal noise = heat from a device.

user input = users' mouse movements.

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so is stars taking my temp via my mouse?

Josem · #18 10-01-2007, 10:34 PM

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so is stars taking my temp via my mouse?

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No.

To anyone with a functioning reading comprehension device (ie, a brain) it is clear that the two things are separate.

kyleb · #19 10-01-2007, 10:46 PM

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what is user input and thermal noise ? can someone explain? thermal noise is the pokerstars cpu?

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thermal noise = heat from a device.

user input = users' mouse movements.

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so is stars taking my temp via my mouse?

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Yes. Yes they are.

Bobo Fett · #20 10-02-2007, 04:44 AM

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what is user input and thermal noise ? can someone explain? thermal noise is the pokerstars cpu?

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thermal noise = heat from a device.

user input = users' mouse movements.

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so is stars taking my temp via my mouse?

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Yes. Yes they are.

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And your IQ.