Micro stakes winrates

[Gonso]

Hi guys,

I'm trying to start someone out playing micros online at Stars. I don't play these limits at all and haven't observed them much, and was wondering what the best of the micro players do in bb/100 long term - full ring .01/.02 specifically.

PLease specify if you're talking ptbb also.

[Milky]

Why not start them at 6max?

[Pokey]

Is there any such thing as a really good long-term $2NL player? I'm thinking anybody even decently good is going to crush the bejeezus out of $2NL and move up to more financially lucrative games rather quickly.

Besides, I'm guessing that you can't really learn to play the game at $2NL. Under $10NL the games pretty much run as a play-money game, and the skills you learn might be highly skewed and ineffective in games of $10NL or higher. Especially at $25NL, the game starts to settle down into "poker."

Just things to consider....

[crushednuts]

I play 2 NL alot when I am drinking and messing around in class etc. I have played 13k hands and my win rate is 19 BB/100. NL 10 and NL 25 my win rate is about 8 BB/100..

[fozzy71]

I play nl25 at FT.

I started at stars a month+ ago with donations for my card/table mod's from other generous players. I usually play at stars after my FT session, or if I am running bad at FT. I havent been playin nearly enough hands, at either site, but here are my Stars Micro Stats since starting.

Playing like a nit CAN be profitable.

[xPeru]

Following disastrous BRM I'm grinding up from a roll of $3.29, found by accident when I re-downloaded Party. I'm playing 2c/4c with a win rate of 30ptBB/100 over 8k hands. Now moved to 5c/10c but no significant figures yet. My stats for the 2c/4c (full ring):

VPIP 19%
Pfr 10%
AF PF 1
AF Flop 2.6
AF Turn 1.9
AF River 2.2
Won at Showdown 60% (went to sd 5.76%)
Att to Steal 23.7%
Folded BB to steal 66.7%
c-bet 49%

From which you can gather that, apart from when BB, I played passive pre-flop, aggressively on flop, checked behind a lot on the turn and value bet the river hugely. As Pokey says, it's not going to work at higher levels, but at the lowest limits, it's truly easy to pwn timid players.

[HU4coke]

can someone summarize Fozzy's stats, I cant see the image.

[itWASaDREAM]

I think fozzy stats are about 4ptbb/100.

I would say at 2nl you should be able to have 20+ptbb, at 10nl a good player can get the same, an average player would be around 10ptbb. ~t 25nl I would think that a 10ptbb winrate is easily done.

[RedSoxFan]

I started $2NL because only banked $40 to start (Stars). I'm up to $100 after 13K hands and slowly working in $5NL. I have played $10NL and some $25NL and don't find a difference in difficulty- just have to have a large enough bankroll to support the variance.

Over last month I'm around 20PTBB for $2NL (up from about 8-10 first month). It's easy and getting boring- but builds BR.

[fozzy71]

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can someone summarize Fozzy's stats, I cant see the image.

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My stats ARE in PTBB/100

NL2-6max - 3000 hands @ 14 ptBB/100
NL5-6max - 4,300+ hands @ 7.5 ptBB/100
NL10-6max - 1550 hands @ 18 ptBB/100

Playin 15/8/2.5