27t: TPTK vs reraiser

AllinDan · #1 01-20-2007, 11:56 PM

tourney just started, have never played with villain before.

edit: I have thoughts on the hand but I want to wait to see what people say first. also, who leads the flop?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1780)
UTG+1 (t1440)
Hero (t1510)
MP2 (t1270)
MP3 (t1570)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t60, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t60, CO raises to t210, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t150, MP3 folds

Flop: (t510) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t385,
Hero ??

Bastian · #2 01-21-2007, 12:05 AM

I think I would shove flop into an unknown villain.

Do you play enough to know he's not a regular?

AllinDan · #3 01-21-2007, 12:15 AM

I only moved up to 27s recently so I don't know, though he wasn't on any of my 10+ other tables for what its worth

Bastian · #4 01-21-2007, 12:25 AM

Ok as played I think I would shove.

And the decision as to what to do becomes close depending on who the player is, I think.

I like a shove.

If you were thinking about check shoving there anyway, you could try leading that flop againts unknown just to feel him out. In a sense that if you were going to make an all in bet (check/shove), you would call one if he shoves on you anyway.

Might not be the best option, but something to think about.

AllinDan · #5 01-21-2007, 12:33 AM

are you just sort of hoping he has KQ or he folds? I understand that I have top pair but you haven't thought at all about what villain might hold.

futuredoc85 · #6 01-21-2007, 12:36 AM

the only valid reason to check this flop is to CRAI. villain could have AdXd, random SCs, QQ, AJ,KQ,KT in addition to JJ,KK,AA. if you're even going to consider folding this flop vs an unknown then fold preflop.

Bastian · #7 01-21-2007, 12:41 AM

Well I don't have too much information.

So for all I know, he could have AA-JJ, but at the same time AJ, KQ or even AK.

KQ is actually probably unlikley.

Use sharkscope man.

Gee, I dunno, I havent played a SnG in maybe 3 weeks. Hope someone could chime in here.

AllinDan · #8 01-21-2007, 12:41 AM

so would you lead flop or would you CRAI?

don't you think putting KT in his range is a little optimistic?

Green Kool Aid · #9 01-21-2007, 12:44 AM

I fold to the PFRR.

Bastian · #10 01-21-2007, 12:46 AM

I feel we have to be (even though its unlikely) becuase we don't know who the villian is.

Use sharkscope.

I think you can do both lead or c/r. Id rather get in first on flop though.