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Old 11-27-2007, 10:02 AM
Donkey-Milker Donkey-Milker is offline
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

surely he 4bets AA and KK pf? so that leaves exactly JJ and TT?
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

dude you cant assume his range is AA KK QQ JJ TT and AK... i mean come on. People play badly. Tons of worse hands call this flop. Id reraise to like 36 preflop and bet the flop. Evaluate from there
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

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vs a tricky / good tag i think your hand is face up and u have to decide if hes overbetting with KK+, JJ/TT to induce a call with your obvious QQ/AJ, or if hes trying to bluff you off your obvious QQ/AJ with like 99/AK or something.

Since hes 20/13 and probably not that good, his overbet is almost definitely > QQ, and if he is bluffing its no where near 1 in 3 times.

i say your hand is faceup once you call the turn because i think you are betting this flop with most of your range that missed or hit hard, and folding the turn with the rest. There aren't many hands you should have here with your line that make much sense.

Whatever you have its something and its not something great in his eyes unless he is just clueless.

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imo his hand is not face up at all
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:13 AM
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vs a tricky / good tag i think your hand is face up and u have to decide if hes overbetting with KK+, JJ/TT to induce a call with your obvious QQ/AJ, or if hes trying to bluff you off your obvious QQ/AJ with like 99/AK or something.

Since hes 20/13 and probably not that good, his overbet is almost definitely > QQ, and if he is bluffing its no where near 1 in 3 times.

i say your hand is faceup once you call the turn because i think you are betting this flop with most of your range that missed or hit hard, and folding the turn with the rest. There aren't many hands you should have here with your line that make much sense.

Whatever you have its something and its not something great in his eyes unless he is just clueless.

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imo his hand is not face up at all

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what hands other than QQ or a random jack take this line?
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

people call with weird hands. it is a fairly marginal spot and i don't think a call is wrong or a fold is wrong. i think i would call this, but it could go either way.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

I'd raise to $35 and obv bet flop, and re-evaluate if resistance. I would be afraid of JJ here but your line to me seemed like AK?
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: so i fold an overpair in a reraised pot (nl200)

I aswell like a turn minraise
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