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Old 10-10-2007, 08:07 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default JJ in a 3 bet pot

No read on the guy as Im new to table. This standard?

Pretend the turn is some blank and he still bets $40, fold?

PokerStars $1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Button: $65.00
SB: $248.55
BB: $153.40
UTG: $211.95
CO: $54.95

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $28</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($58.00) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($58.00) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $40</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

Turn fold is fine. I call if its a blank though.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

Standard turn fold.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

i don 't know turn could come A,K,T and we' d be folding. Makes me question the preflop call against an unknown.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

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i don 't know turn could come A,K,T and we' d be folding. Makes me question the preflop call against an unknown.

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So I should be folding this PF?
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

folding pf really depends on villain's re-raising range pf.

if they're re-raising reasonably tightly (and i've got no reason to doubt this) villain's range is likely to be in the vicinity of 99+, AK, AQ, maybe some others, etc.


if you're going to call PF, and not bet the flop, you're giving up a chunk of equity to AK - which benefits massively from seeing all 5 cards, but is hurt massively when it only gets to see the flop.

in addition, you leave yourself very open to being bluffed off the best hand when villain has 99-TT.


i'd bet the flop, but shut down afterwards. otherwise, why are you playing that hand PF? you're certainly not playing for set value...
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:42 PM
JBeef JBeef is offline
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

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i don 't know turn could come A,K,T and we' d be folding. Makes me question the preflop call against an unknown.

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So I should be folding this PF?

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hahahahahahahhahahaahahahah. no seriously, I think betting the flop makes this hand a bit easier to get away from. as played, if the turn bricks, i likely call.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

That's a strange flop check by villain. Got to put him on AK or a Q set after that, with AK more likely obv. I would have put out 1/2 pot on the flop.

Turn card is so bad you have to fold.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

If he bets 3/4 the pot on the flop are you folding?
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: JJ in a 3 bet pot

id bet that flop. def fold the turn. if the turn was a blank , as played id call and fold to a river bet.
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