weird blind steal spot with draw, but awkward stack sizes - Page 2

g-p · #11 09-24-2007, 12:42 PM

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I think the pot sized bet on the turn in position with draw is really bad.

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how is it really bad? he how often does he have a hand worth calling here? fold equity + my hands equity = $$$

betgo · #12 09-24-2007, 12:52 PM

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I think the pot sized bet on the turn in position with draw is really bad.

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how is it really bad? he how often does he have a hand worth calling here? fold equity + my hands equity = $$$

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What do you do if he raises you allin? Why not draw and wait for the river to bluff?

mastr · #13 09-24-2007, 01:27 PM

then we fold and so be it... I bet a lil less on the turn, but not by much. Seems fine

g-p · #14 09-24-2007, 01:35 PM

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then we fold and so be it... I bet a lil less on the turn, but not by much. Seems fine

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if the turn gets raised im getting about 2.8:1, and against Ax im 3:1. i bet big thought i was pricing myself in to call.

even though its slightly -cEv to call a turn push it would give me a stack i could resteal with if i won, and if i just folded i would be crippled bad.

mastr · #15 09-24-2007, 01:44 PM

that's fair.. also your pm box is full, I just need your stars name

g-p · #16 09-24-2007, 04:53 PM

gp333 ty [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

shaundeeb · #17 09-24-2007, 08:42 PM

gabe there are spots to tightenup def if you are bet/calling the turn I rather shove yes it's an overbet but they can't call without an ace and if you think they are c/shoving with Ax+ might as well shove and get Kx diamond and KJ to fold.

g-p · #18 09-24-2007, 10:10 PM

yea i kinda like shoving too now that i think about it

PhatPots · #19 09-24-2007, 11:52 PM

I think your bet on the turn is too big. If you bet the turn and he flats calls, you are forced to shove any river because the pot is now bigger than your stack. I would probably bet like 750-1,100, not a huge different but it will make the pot 2,000 less which will make it easier to check the river if you miss.

On the turn, I just don't see BB calling with at least an Ace. Once he calls, I think you have to give up.

Edited: Oh ya, and I would normally just bet the flop. Like 90% of the time, you should be repping that Ace. If he calls you check, the turn with your draw and pray that you hit.