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Old 07-05-2007, 03:30 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
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Default Re: Why dont girls aspire to be cocktail waitresses?

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Exactly. The parents are sending their daughter to college so that she can find a good man. How is she supposed to find a good man in a casino among all the degenerates? They will just end up gambooling away her expected nest egg.


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Do you really think even a small minority of women go to college to find a husband? I don't deny the MRS degree exists, but when I was in college (albeit a few years back) the women were there to learn, earn a degree and get a good job so they could take care of themselves.

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NCA, I went to grad school near you, and I was *shocked* by the number of good-looking, otherwise intelligent woman who were attending grad schools in biz, law, and education to meet the right guy and get the MRS.
Study for a few months, 2nd year is all interviewing at biz school anyway, find a bright guy who's going to make serious bank in NYC or at some hedge fund, get married, work 1-2 years, stay-at-home mom ftw. Many say they'll go back to work after, most of them do not, or go back for 6-9 months part-time, then have kid #2 and definitely stay home. NTTAWWT.
This has happened to dozens of friends of mine, including women who thought they wanted to be CEO someday, and realized it was easier/happier to stay home and be CEO of the household and see their kids more than 2 hours a day.
Whatever makes you happy, right?
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Why dont girls aspire to be cocktail waitresses?

Sucker,

"You don't want to know."

In other words, you don't know?
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Why dont girls aspire to be cocktail waitresses?

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Exactly. The parents are sending their daughter to college so that she can find a good man. How is she supposed to find a good man in a casino among all the degenerates? They will just end up gambooling away her expected nest egg.


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Do you really think even a small minority of women go to college to find a husband? I don't deny the MRS degree exists, but when I was in college (albeit a few years back) the women were there to learn, earn a degree and get a good job so they could take care of themselves.

NCAces

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NCA, I went to grad school near you, and I was *shocked* by the number of good-looking, otherwise intelligent woman who were attending grad schools in biz, law, and education to meet the right guy and get the MRS.
Study for a few months, 2nd year is all interviewing at biz school anyway, find a bright guy who's going to make serious bank in NYC or at some hedge fund, get married, work 1-2 years, stay-at-home mom ftw. Many say they'll go back to work after, most of them do not, or go back for 6-9 months part-time, then have kid #2 and definitely stay home. NTTAWWT.
This has happened to dozens of friends of mine, including women who thought they wanted to be CEO someday, and realized it was easier/happier to stay home and be CEO of the household and see their kids more than 2 hours a day.
Whatever makes you happy, right?

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Extremely standard for law students too. I've worked in firms that found it virtually impossible, for lengthy periods, to keep female attorneys on the floor for more than a few years, because, well, working in an office sucks one hell of a lot more than working with your own family. Maybe especially when working with other attorneys, who can often get pretty sour and aggressive not long after law school -- if it even takes them that long.
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:55 PM
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"You don't want to know."

really i/we do.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Why dont girls aspire to be cocktail waitresses?

One more thing I have observed.

"A cocktail's Tips, are directly proportional to the size of her t!ts" - Honest Ryan

I have observed this time and time again as big titted waitresses get red birds and speedy efficint waitresses get a couple white chips. keeping this in mind, I assume a boob job would very quickly pay for itself .
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:13 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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The problem is that I don't have any idea how much they tip out, etc (nor to whom), but I expect this to be a non-trivial amount. However, my best guestimate would be that they clear ~ 80 bucks an hour, even after tipping out. 160k/year for pushing around little carts and looking kinda cute is pretty good. This is for daytime and evening shifts; graveyard is much less because there are fewer people drinking (but I'm sure they make ~ 100k). Hakkee would probably be able to offer more.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:45 AM
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OP, is absolutely right. With little to no experience, a girl can get a six figure salary easily.

Look at the other options to get to a six figure salary..I mean, even a lawyer doesn't start out at 6 figures.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:24 AM
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Exactly. The parents are sending their daughter to college so that she can find a good man. How is she supposed to find a good man in a casino among all the degenerates? They will just end up gambooling away her expected nest egg.


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Do you really think even a small minority of women go to college to find a husband? I don't deny the MRS degree exists, but when I was in college (albeit a few years back) the women were there to learn, earn a degree and get a good job so they could take care of themselves.

NCAces

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NCA, I went to grad school near you, and I was *shocked* by the number of good-looking, otherwise intelligent woman who were attending grad schools in biz, law, and education to meet the right guy and get the MRS.
Study for a few months, 2nd year is all interviewing at biz school anyway, find a bright guy who's going to make serious bank in NYC or at some hedge fund, get married, work 1-2 years, stay-at-home mom ftw. Many say they'll go back to work after, most of them do not, or go back for 6-9 months part-time, then have kid #2 and definitely stay home. NTTAWWT.
This has happened to dozens of friends of mine, including women who thought they wanted to be CEO someday, and realized it was easier/happier to stay home and be CEO of the household and see their kids more than 2 hours a day.
Whatever makes you happy, right?

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Extremely standard for law students too. I've worked in firms that found it virtually impossible, for lengthy periods, to keep female attorneys on the floor for more than a few years, because, well, working in an office sucks one hell of a lot more than working with your own family. Maybe especially when working with other attorneys, who can often get pretty sour and aggressive not long after law school -- if it even takes them that long.

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I don't deny that some do that, but you must have gone to a different law school, or work at different law firms than I did. I would say a huge percent of the women I went to law school with still are practicing law, with families that are grown. They worked through the duration and are partners at their firms.

As for me, I have a wife with an MBA from a top 15 school who was doing great in the corporate world, who left it to raise our two boys. Her choice to sacrafice the income. She now runs the management side of my/our business. Her contribution might not equal what she could be making in corporate America, but the flexibility when you are raising kids can't be beat. So, I can understand the attraction of the wife staying home ... it works for us.

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