25NL - TPTK turn shove

[RiverPlay]

Cryptologic - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $26.05
BB: $33.53
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $21.95</font>
CO: $16.75
BTN: $32.60

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1.25, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $2.25, BTN folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, SB calls $4.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($20.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $12.45</font>, SB calls $12.45

Pot Size: $45.40

Is this really bad?? Should re raise flop??

[ajml]

Unless I have a really good reason this is a fold preflop. As played... i dunno you are probably destroyed at least check the turn

[tms]

i prob fold this pf to a rr out of the sb, but as played the flop raise is ok but i shut down after that and give him credit for TT+

edit: misread board

[wikemang]

I'd fold to the reraise preflop. As played, flop raise is fine but shut down after that like tms said.

[Vyse]

rebuy, fold to 3bet PF, flop fine, turn bad.

[Zanton]

Any reads ?
If you raise, why not raising more the flop ?
You don't get any information with this small raise.
In this spot I think it's very villain-dependant.

[hummusx]

I don't know why everyone is telling you the flop is fine. Your flop raise is really bad. Pot is $8.50, then $10.50, then $16.50 and he only has to call $4. See the problem here? He's getting 4:1 on a flush draw (or straight draw, though that seems unlikely). If he thinks he can get ANY more money out of you that makes this a really easy call. If you're going to raise it, you need to raise it enough to make it wrong for him to draw if he has it.

Personally, unless this guy is aggro or I have some other read, I'm not calling the 3-bet with this hand. I'd rather not play a pair of jacks for my stack if I can help it.

[karlwig]

check behind on turn. i like your play on the flop though.

[RiverPlay]

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I don't know why everyone is telling you the flop is fine. Your flop raise is really bad. Pot is $8.50, then $10.50, then $16.50 and he only has to call $4. See the problem here? He's getting 4:1 on a flush draw (or straight draw, though that seems unlikely). If he thinks he can get ANY more money out of you that makes this a really easy call. If you're going to raise it, you need to raise it enough to make it wrong for him to draw if he has it.

Personally, unless this guy is aggro or I have some other read, I'm not calling the 3-bet with this hand. I'd rather not play a pair of jacks for my stack if I can help it.

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I agree with both of your points, it's quite simple, but i didnt see it this way before. Thanks.

[crovax4444]

I do like the pf call, he's got position, two suited broadway cards to a mini-raise.

I dislike the flop raise for reasons mentioned by hummusx

Crovax