2/4 can you fold AA here?

context · #1 03-23-2007, 06:24 AM

One of those annoying flop decisions, he screams strength but is it a fold?

Villain is probably the best player at the table though he plays a little tight at 16/13/1.6. I've not seen him out of line in ~ 120 hands. He usually bets the pot on most streets and hasn't shown down too many hands. I've been playing fairly tight.

Stacks:
SB ($395.20)
BB ($521.70)
Hero ($642.36)
CO ($417.50)
Btn ($435.50)

Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero raises to $16, CO folds, Btn calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets $24, Btn raises to $96, Hero raises to $194, Btn raises allin....

This screams set, but it could probably be something like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or even K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I'm actually behind the KQ here.

FBP · #2 03-23-2007, 06:30 AM

Obv call this push, but the 3bet is pretty bad in the first place.

AcTiOnJaCsOn · #3 03-23-2007, 06:42 AM

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Obv call this push, but the 3bet is pretty bad in the first place.

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Agreed with the 3 bet, this is a tough spot and ur obv behind, i fold here instead of call though he most likely doesnt have A K cc because he would have re raised pre. And he wouldnt go for stacks without a combo draw which is possible here but unlikely. I think your looking at 66 or 99 here most of the time especially if your read on the villian is correct.

context · #4 03-23-2007, 06:43 AM

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but the 3bet is pretty bad in the first place.

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Why?

AcTiOnJaCsOn · #5 03-23-2007, 06:47 AM

because you foldout all the hands your beating and all the sets and 2 pair hands call unless ur image is ridiculously lag. This is a tought spot out of position i think your best line is to bet out and fold to a regular or someone uve labeled as tight, re raise for informaion isnt bad if the stacks are deeper.

catcher193 · #6 03-23-2007, 07:04 AM

if your gonna 3 bet, which is fine, obviously call the push.

aislephive · #7 03-23-2007, 07:04 AM

If you don't think he is going to push back a worse hand then why did you 3 bet the flop to begin with? As played ugh, you're probably committed but I don't see us being ahead here much.

I'd probably call the flop and re-evaluate turn. Folding the flop against this guy can't be too big of a mistake, either.

Reef · #8 03-23-2007, 07:53 AM

as played, gotta call now

feesjah · #9 03-23-2007, 08:20 AM

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because you foldout all the hands your beating and all the sets and 2 pair hands call unless ur image is ridiculously lag. This is a tought spot out of position i think your best line is to bet out and fold to a regular or someone uve labeled as tight, re raise for informaion isnt bad if the stacks are deeper.

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with the intention of check pushing the turn ? or check fold ?

stigmata · #10 03-23-2007, 09:08 AM

I don't like the flop 3-bet either, because we end up, like in this hand, getting commited when likely behind. Either that, or the nit just folds anything that we beat.

I would probably call flop raise (although folding may be good, especially with a read) and re-eval turn. If the turn is a club or he looks like he wants to play for stacks, I fold.