Your action?

Joe Tall · #1 10-28-2007, 08:26 AM

Opponent is a Standardish TAG, 29/22/2.3ish.

$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.60 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.30 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...........

What's your action and why?

mike l. · #2 10-28-2007, 08:56 AM

bet. you likely have the best hand still and want to make him pay. you can safely call down if raised. youll lose most of the time you dont improve but the call is the least worst play if raised. checking the turn is too passive and bad form.

vmacosta · #3 10-28-2007, 09:36 AM

i think its an easy bet/call. He should have all sorts of hands with a heart that he didn't feel like getting aggro with on the flop (especially if he's been caught bluffing recently or you've been showing down light).

If he raises, calling the river UI is not good against vast majority of 5/10 tags. they will usually realize that any A-hi hand has a str8 draw and won't fold so they don't bother semibluffing without a gigantic draw.

Plz keep posting in this forum, we could use your experience down here.

#4 10-28-2007, 09:40 AM

Sushiglutton · #5 10-28-2007, 09:45 AM

I would bet. We could have as many as 17 outs (if I added correctly) if behind. Also there is a chance we are ahead if villain holds a lower FD.

His flop c/c on this board looks a bit odd to me. I wonder what the standard interpretation of it is. A low pair, trying to get to show-down unless board turns bad?

What I mean is that if he's on a draw the board is pretty scary and he should make a move to win UI. But maybe he i thinking that it will be hard to win UI because the board is so scary. That is: Mr Tall will call down light unless a heart falls.

Now I've talked to myself enough.

Anyway bet!

topspinner · #6 10-28-2007, 10:04 AM

Not sure why would not bet you have 18 outs and you could still have the best hand as well....

I would imagine that this is a trick question though...since it seems so obvious to bet. The only reason that I could think of for checking, is then most Tag's would not think you had a heart or an ace and basically bet the river no matter what comes. If your one of your cards comes, you can raise the river and if it does not come...you can fold....and get out cheaply. Still like betting better.

Oink · #7 10-28-2007, 11:04 AM

Checking has some merit against a loose flop peeler that will bluff river quite a lot since there will be so many hands in his range you dont mind giving out a free card to and which might fold.

Against a tighter player that wont bluff that much I would just bet.

So againt this player I bet. Against a moron 40/10 guy I check.

Apanage · #8 10-28-2007, 01:12 PM

I don´t like a turn value check that much against a 40/10.
Since he many times would call both turn and river with an inferior hand.
And it is by no means a disaster to get checkraised because:

A)We have many outs
B)He quite often does it with a worse hand.
C)He probably is stupid enough to bet/call river if a heart falls.

I´m not that sure i`m right though because I have a hard time doing the math.

Oink · #9 10-28-2007, 01:26 PM

Apanage.

I agree. If you think you can valuebet both streets you shouldnt value check. But I wouldnt do that

Apanage · #10 10-28-2007, 01:36 PM

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Apanage.

I agree. If you think you can valuebet both streets you shouldnt value check. But I wouldnt do that

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I think he has some kind of a heart draw 3/4th of the time.So approximately 15% of the times you can value bet both turn and river.And that makes me lean to bet turn.