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Old 11-14-2007, 09:34 PM
z28dreams z28dreams is offline
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Default 77 as overpair 3ways

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $16.20
BB: $27.35
UTG: $25
MP: $37.20
Hero (CO): $24.65
BTN: $59.90

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.85</font>, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2.65</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2.65

Turn: ($7.95) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4</font>, Hero folds

I only have about 10 hands on villain, but he's been involved in most of the pots.

I don't particularly like his donkbet into 2 of us on the flop.

Does anyone play this different?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

I could see him betting a flush draw here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

What are COs and BBs stats? You say that BB has been involved in most of the pots but you didn't say if he was raising in those pots. IMO this info is important, even if it was only over 10 hands.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

River bet doesnt seem strong enough to me to indicate a missed flush draw. Given that villain has played most of the hands so far, seems his range is pretty wide and he very well could have a 4 or 5. Then again has villain just limped the previous hands, or called raises with any seen marginal holdings as well?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

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River bet doesnt seem strong enough to me to indicate a missed flush draw. Given that villain has played most of the hands so far, seems his range is pretty wide and he very well could have a 4 or 5. Then again has villain just limped the previous hands, or called raises with any seen marginal holdings as well?

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We only made it to the turn so far...
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

Turn looks like an easy fold. Flop call is player dependent.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

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Turn looks like an easy fold. Flop call is player dependent.

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Could you elaborate?
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

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River bet doesnt seem strong enough to me to indicate a missed flush draw. Given that villain has played most of the hands so far, seems his range is pretty wide and he very well could have a 4 or 5. Then again has villain just limped the previous hands, or called raises with any seen marginal holdings as well?

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We only made it to the turn so far...

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[X] misread of OP's hand FTL
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

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Turn looks like an easy fold. Flop call is player dependent.

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Could you elaborate?

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Like you said.. when he leads into two players including the PFA we only beat a semibluff. I could imagine this is mid-sized overpair alot of the time, if it's not we only beat a semibluff which not many players will donk pot into two players with. If he's been kind of splashy then I'll call off one street like you did. On the turn It's possible he had an overpair/draw and is now afraid of the board or has made a boat and is milking it. Overall I think you played it fine.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: 77 as overpair 3ways

You only beat 66 or Ax and I think Ax would check there to get to showdown cheaply. Heart draw would also not bet there too often.

Without reads it's not really worth calling over a 1/2 PSB on turn. I'd put him on exactly A4.
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