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Old 08-29-2007, 08:29 PM
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Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $232.1
UTG+1: $278.83
CO: $196
Button: $166.75
SB: $218.67
Hero: $200

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($29, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $52</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $36 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $61

villain is 26.5/0/0.18 over only 64 hands

is b/f standard here or is it better to c/c in spots like this?
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

well b/f is better than c/c, but why are you betting so weak on river?
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

why is b/f better than c/c....? and when is c/c better than b/f?
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

because betting gets value from hands that would check behind
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

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because betting gets value from hands that would check behind

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true but you miss value from hands that would bluf on the river


and also isnt it possible that you fold the best hand, when someone decides to raise your river bet with just trips 10's...
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

and c/c can cost more than b/f
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

its also important to note his aggression factor here. some kind of T with a club is a large portion of his range, and if his kicker's real weak he may check it back.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: b/f or c/c straight on ugly board

bet more on turn too
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