Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > MTT Community
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old 06-18-2007, 01:48 PM
betgo betgo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,430
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
Got my 12k. In my reply to FT about shirt sizes for the gear, I asked if they'd send me a bathrobe to wear at teh event.

btw, betgo's A2 hand was right on the bubble. Lose that A2 vs 33 and I think he'da bubbled.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeh, there was another guy allin with the ante who lost, so I think I may still get the seat if I lose.

I didn't steal quite enough at the end and cut it too close in both the Stars and Full tilt satellites.
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 06-18-2007, 01:52 PM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 3,021
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

got the 12k,

btw i had a guy allin on the actual bubble with TT v. his 96o

flop 962. lol, im not sure if he would have bubbled, but it was pretty funny.
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 06-18-2007, 02:03 PM
Dawg24 Dawg24 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 157
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Got my 12k. In my reply to FT about shirt sizes for the gear, I asked if they'd send me a bathrobe to wear at teh event.

btw, betgo's A2 hand was right on the bubble. Lose that A2 vs 33 and I think he'da bubbled.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeh, there was another guy allin with the ante who lost, so I think I may still get the seat if I lose.

I didn't steal quite enough at the end and cut it too close in both the Stars and Full tilt satellites.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW chip leader at you final table is a buddy of mine so I told him to take it easy if you went all-in....when you last went in he had AQ suited...guessing you didnt want that call....
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 06-18-2007, 02:05 PM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 3,021
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

lol collusion-aments
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 06-18-2007, 02:07 PM
Dawg24 Dawg24 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 157
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

if there was none...everyone would have called that last hand...it would have been 8 players to knock out betgo...no one wants to knock out the shortie if they are getting in anyway....right??
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 06-18-2007, 02:45 PM
betgo betgo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,430
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Got my 12k. In my reply to FT about shirt sizes for the gear, I asked if they'd send me a bathrobe to wear at teh event.

btw, betgo's A2 hand was right on the bubble. Lose that A2 vs 33 and I think he'da bubbled.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeh, there was another guy allin with the ante who lost, so I think I may still get the seat if I lose.

I didn't steal quite enough at the end and cut it too close in both the Stars and Full tilt satellites.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW chip leader at you final table is a buddy of mine so I told him to take it easy if you went all-in....when you last went in he had AQ suited...guessing you didnt want that call....

[/ QUOTE ]
I don't know if what you say is true, but I didn't want the call, as there would have been a 1/3 chance I busted out with QQ.
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:27 PM
kutuz_off kutuz_off is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,953
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
BTW chip leader at you final table is a buddy of mine so I told him to take it easy if you went all-in....when you last went in he had AQ suited...guessing you didnt want that call....

[/ QUOTE ]

Please don't do that in the future. Soft-playing for whatever reasons is wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 06-18-2007, 04:47 PM
Dawg24 Dawg24 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 157
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
BTW chip leader at you final table is a buddy of mine so I told him to take it easy if you went all-in....when you last went in he had AQ suited...guessing you didnt want that call....

[/ QUOTE ]

Please don't do that in the future. Soft-playing for whatever reasons is wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is it really? (serious question)

When I play in a sat event I take it easy on the shorties if I am going to make it...unless they where a-holes earlier or appear to have no idea what they are doing. But good players I take it easy on...is this wrong? I find myself of high moral character and dont see this as wrong...I would NEVER blatantly cheat....
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 06-18-2007, 05:32 PM
kutuz_off kutuz_off is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,953
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
Is it really? (serious question)

When I play in a sat event I take it easy on the shorties if I am going to make it...unless they where a-holes earlier or appear to have no idea what they are doing. But good players I take it easy on...is this wrong? I find myself of high moral character and dont see this as wrong...I would NEVER blatantly cheat....

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you doing this? Players at your table don't belong to some sort of brotherhood with you, that players at other tables don't. A bustout at your table is as good as one at a different table.

If anything, you should be trying to get bad players to qualify, not good ones, so that in the target tournament competition is softer.

If I'm short-stacked on the bubble of a satellite at a different table and see a big stack folding to a shorty when it's an obvious shove/call/whatever, I get mighty POed and suspicious.

In this case you told your buddy to take it easy on betgo (whom I personally like as a poster here, and was rooting for) specifically. It is borderline collusion. There should be no "rooting" as it affects decision at the poker tables. Other shorties shouldn't be discriminated against on the basis of belonging to some forum/club/etc. I don't know how easy/mandatory calling with AQs in the hand you described is, so I won't pass judgement on that, but the very intention is aggravating to me.

PS. I had no other "rooting" interests in that tournament, FWIW.
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 06-18-2007, 05:47 PM
jgunnip jgunnip is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: shipping ironman bonus medals
Posts: 5,321
Default Re: FTP 100-Seat Guarantee

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Is it really? (serious question)

When I play in a sat event I take it easy on the shorties if I am going to make it...unless they where a-holes earlier or appear to have no idea what they are doing. But good players I take it easy on...is this wrong? I find myself of high moral character and dont see this as wrong...I would NEVER blatantly cheat....

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you doing this? Players at your table don't belong to some sort of brotherhood with you, that players at other tables don't. A bustout at your table is as good as one at a different table.

If anything, you should be trying to get bad players to qualify, not good ones, so that in the target tournament competition is softer.

If I'm short-stacked on the bubble of a satellite at a different table and see a big stack folding to a shorty when it's an obvious shove/call/whatever, I get mighty POed and suspicious.

In this case you told your buddy to take it easy on betgo (whom I personally like as a poster here, and was rooting for) specifically. It is borderline collusion. There should be no "rooting" as it affects decision at the poker tables. Other shorties shouldn't be discriminated against on the basis of belonging to some forum/club/etc. I don't know how easy/mandatory calling with AQs in the hand you described is, so I won't pass judgement on that, but the very intention is aggravating to me.

PS. I had no other "rooting" interests in that tournament, FWIW.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have to say I disagree with the notion that big stacks have an obligation to call a short all in if the big stack already has the seat locked up. And I probably would have done the same thing in the AQ spot. It is one thing if two players are actively colluding with each other, for example if the shorty raises all in minus one chip and the big stack calls and then folds the flop for one more. Obviously, that is an extreame example. However, as a big stack with a guaranteed seat there is no reason to play a hand other than for the notion that time is money.

Picking and choosing who you try to take out isn't explicit collusion and I don't see it as cheating or wrong really. Obv it sucks for other shortstacks but it isn't their right to have big stack risk his chips in order for the shortstacks to have a better shot at qualifying.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.