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Old 10-19-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default standard QQ / KK spot

villain 41/17/1.5

PokerStars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">UTG bets</font>

My default play here is to just call down, but I'm not sure if that is right. We are getting about 4:1 on a call down, but it doesn't feel like I'm good 20% of the time here. Maybe my feelings aren't very well calibrated though.

How much does a suited vs rainbow flop affect your decision to call down?

My plan for now is to call down vs unknowns and make a note, then adjust in future scenarios.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

i'm going to sd almost always here
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

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We are getting about 4:1 a call down, but it doesn't feel like I'm good 20% of the time here.

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Really?
I think you are often more than 20% of the time good. I also call down if a diamond hit the board. I dunno how good that is.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

i like the call down line.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

You must calldown here without a read. You're good a lot vs. an unknown.
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

I think after the donk bet you are more likely to be good (if he had let's say ak, probably would cr)....you have to call down in this instance. According to pokerstove against top 10% you are 60-40 underdog, against top 15% you are only 52.5-47.5 underdog.

If the villain checked here and you bet and he cr....would you lay this down?
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: standard QQ / KK spot

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My plan for now is to call down vs unknowns and make a note, then adjust in future scenarios.

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good plan.
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