Sun Mill hands but these should be too easy for HSMTT...

[Mr.WeakTight]

I'm posting these here b/c I think they're probably easier decisions than what should be posted in HSMTT, plus I posted two hands just now over there.

I lost the vast majority of my chips on a 3-outer on the river (AA<77). These three hands were potential push or raise hands to get back in it. There's about 1200 left, 900 are paid.

1)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1500 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t26936)
SB (t47589)
BB (t39099)
UTG (t26612)
UTG+1 (t55368)
MP1 (t15052)
MP2 (t33815)
MP3 (t44264)
CO (t62972)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

folds to MP2 who raises 2750 to 4250

hero?

2) i guess the raise was stupid. s/have pushed? or folded?. & as played, call?

(750/1500) - 2007/09/02 - 19:23:04 (ET)
Table '58809305 217' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
hero (26786 in chips)
BB(26462 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qd Js]
hero/high jack: raises 3000 to 4500
BB: raises 21812 to 26312 and is all-in

3) & finally, does a minimum raise from UTG+1 guarantee a premium starting hand such that KQo should be folded?

[Stumpy]

1. If he calls really tight (TT+,AQs+,AKo) you need him to be folding almost 2/3rds of the time (raising about 11%) for shoving to be slightly profitable.
If he calls 88+,AQ+ you need him to fold 60% of the time.

How long ago did you lose the AA hand?
If it was a few hands ago, your shove isn't going to get nearly as much respect.
If you've folded a round, then I think you're OK, as long as the raiser isn't the guy who beat you.
Obviously you're behind his range, so you want folds.

I don't think you can shove here, unless you have a good sense MP2 is raising pretty wide.


2. He'd have to be shoving around Any Ace, Any Pair to call, which isn't good news.

Shoving here is +Chips, but raise/folding probably was too.
You're risking 26,000 for 3600 here, so I think raise/folding is better if the blinds seem straight-forward.
Again, really depends on how long ago the AA hand was.

I'm leaving the math out, but if they called top 10%, it's a little above break-even for you.


3. I don't know about guarantee, but I would fold it.
Some players min raise all the time when blinds get big.
Just figure out which kind he is and make a note for next time.

[vaNq]

3. Not guaranteed, but I definitely fold KQo to a EP raise.

[Shocker101]

I like the push with the A9 but would fold the second hand pre flop unless the table is crazy tight.

[Coz]

1. I would fold the A9o hand, I don't think we are ahead of his range often enough to make shoving the right play.

2. I would also fold because I think we are behind to his range.

3. I think it is better than KQo often enough to make it a good fold.

[[Phill]]

A9 is an easy fold.

QJ i wouldnt have opened from the hijack. As played i fold to the resteal because QJ stacks up so badly against any reasonable range you have him on (i think, havent stoved the hand but id be very shocked if a call is +cEV against his range on those pot odds).

Who cares what a min raise UTG means - frankly given the player it can be anything from 22-AA and any number of random hands he likes - the point is without any specific situation in a general sense i dont want to take someone on with KQ if they are opening in EP.

[Mr.WeakTight]

the AA hand I lost was a little while ago. I doubled up shortly after it, and I've also folded quite a bit since then. I folded about a round after it.

1) I folded A9o.
2) I folded to the QJo push.
3) I pushed the KQo and lost to KK, and in retrospect, I didn't have the fold equity and this is a monster too often to make that call. I s/have been more patient.

[gobboboy]

Eww, open fold preflop both times. Your stack size really sucks for the QJ utg raise and the A9 one, well, I guess you don't really want to get called but I think you are by anything decent whatsoever.

[Stumpy]

Gobbo,

He was HJ in the QJo hand.

[erc007]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm posting these here b/c I think they're probably easier decisions than what should be posted in HSMTT, plus I posted two hands just now over there.

I lost the vast majority of my chips on a 3-outer on the river (AA<77). These three hands were potential push or raise hands to get back in it. There's about 1200 left, 900 are paid.

1)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1500 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t26936)
SB (t47589)
BB (t39099)
UTG (t26612)
UTG+1 (t55368)
MP1 (t15052)
MP2 (t33815)
MP3 (t44264)
CO (t62972)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

folds to MP2 who raises 2750 to 4250

hero?

2) i guess the raise was stupid. s/have pushed? or folded?. & as played, call?

(750/1500) - 2007/09/02 - 19:23:04 (ET)
Table '58809305 217' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
hero (26786 in chips)
BB(26462 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qd Js]
hero/high jack: raises 3000 to 4500
BB: raises 21812 to 26312 and is all-in

3) & finally, does a minimum raise from UTG+1 guarantee a premium starting hand such that KQo should be folded?

[/ QUOTE ]

1) fold pre...easy

2) Raising to 4-4.5K > Folding > Shoving (with the margin btw raising and folding being very slim, relative to the wide margin btwn folding and shoving.) If blinds are loose/aggro then folding > raising to 4/4.5K > Shoving.

3) KQo...If u always, w/out exception, folded KQo to any raise from EP, you wouldn't be making a mistake very often. More info is required: your position; stack sizes; blinds; reads...etc. Questions like this cannot be answered in a vacuum, or in general terms. Nevertheless, the answer to your question, as posed is "no."