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Old 11-20-2007, 02:33 PM
moldman moldman is offline
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I would think any T would have raised turn. JJ is the 2nd nuts here, so of course he's going to bet and I'd expect to see a pretty smallish value bet like you saw. QQ might bet, even though I doubt it, and if it did, I'd also expect to see a smallish bet like you saw because not many worse hands call a bigger bet, if any.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: nl2000 KK

eeehhh my mistake JJ sure he bets.so i ask for QQ (99 maybe but not against a player with these stats).
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:44 PM
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b/f river for 500

OP can I ask what site this is?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:52 PM
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everest. Do you find this question so basic?looking for a soft game? :-)
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: nl2000 KK

the way you have explained yourself in the hh threads you posted would suggest to me that you need to move down in stakes, no offense intended.

with no postflop reads on this guy i like bet flop check turn bet river, because it gets two streets of value from his entire range.

You could also just bet every street. Im not sure i dig the c/c on the river. Its probably b/f > c/f ~= c/c.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:23 PM
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In general when you include a villain's stats try to say over how big a sample. I'm guessing that you've played few enough hands with the villain that the AF of 1 isn't very meaningful.

I agree with GM and another poster who said to bet/fold the river, though personally I feel like I'm bet/folding a little too much and need to check/call some of these spots (but probably not versus this opponent if those stats are reliable, here I think you should always be bet/folding).

You're usually ahead here on the turn and looking to build a larger pot, that's why too eazy suggested betting more, and at least for most 2+2ers a larger bet would be standard (probably minimum $240 for most players). A larger turn bet will also lead to your river value bet (if you make one) being larger and you wind up with a much bigger pot. Also the more you bet on the turn the less likely he is to raise you without trips and the easier it is for you to fold if he does raise.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:32 PM
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@renton
i appreciate your comment. i have to think about that.

@holdem2000

good explanation. thank you



I choose a greater time period at PT.
560 hands. 15/6.4(total AF) flop turn rive r1.8/2.1/14(yes 14)
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:57 PM
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bet/fold and check/call are both fine, it depends on the flow of the game on which one you should choose. Against certain villans a check/fold is also acceptable but this is very rare and very player dependant.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: nl2000 KK

[ QUOTE ]
with no postflop reads on this guy i like bet flop check turn bet river, because it gets two streets of value from his entire range.

[/ QUOTE ]Do you call a bet on the turn and bet river?
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:35 PM
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not everest, FTP
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