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Old 09-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Nick82 Nick82 is offline
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Default Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

... but seeing as I did, can we focus on the action thereafter. It's the river I wondered about mainly, but any other flaws along the way?

No specific reads on this guy to report.


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $137.10
BB: $106.41
UTG: $103.00
MP: $166.37
CO: $201.95
BTN: $97.42

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.00</font>, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $6.00

Turn: ($21) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $14.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00

River: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $33.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $74.42</font>
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:25 PM
EWS87 EWS87 is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

dont lead flop...hell never give you credit for an ace and probably has one by how he played it..easy call on river
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:37 PM
ManChild ManChild is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

call river, this can be any # of Ax
also boats and flushes, but you will be good often enough to call here
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:41 PM
Instadeath Instadeath is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

Does Ax ever shove when the flush hits on the river? By the way the hand played out he may as well be playing with his cards face up. I would almost never expect to be ahead here.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

you only need to be good about 1/4 of the time, i think w/o a read you may very well be good that often
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:48 PM
GuiMo GuiMo is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

It's sure that on the flop, you're trying to win the pot and on the turn you're calling out of odds. Smile you hit on the riv. The problem i see is that even if you hit your str8 or flush in these kind of hand, you may still be facing a tough decision later in the hand because you can be against a monster and still be way behind.

My point is that you got to be carefull when your chasing something that can already be beated.

-Ok p-flop.
-Ok flop
-I would check and fold the turn because you're beating nothing and villains range is kind of large.
-In this situation, I would call the riv, he's got a good ace, hope he did not boat it, and I'm pretty sure his jaw will drop when he will see your flush.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

He already had the boat or he's got one now. If he's half-way decent he'll know your check/call on the turn means you had a draw, especially after you showed strength on flop and showed complete weakness on turn. Don't forget the outside chance he has a bigger flush. I just don't see your hand being good here.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:56 PM
Instadeath Instadeath is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

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It's sure that on the flop, you're trying to win the pot and on the turn you're calling out of odds. Smile you hit on the riv. The problem i see is that even if you hit your str8 or flush in these kind of hand, you may still be facing a tough decision later in the hand because you can be against a monster and still be way behind.

My point is that you got to be carefull when your chasing something that can already be beated.

-Ok p-flop.
-Ok flop
-I would check and fold the turn because you're beating nothing and villains range is kind of large.
-In this situation, I would call the riv, he's got a good ace, hope he did not boat it, and I'm pretty sure his jaw will drop when he will see your flush.

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Maybe if he isn't paying attention at all but the bet flop, check-call turn, bet river is exactly how a flush would be played by a lot of people so unless the guy does not think about the ranges that the other players are playing, he should know exactly where he stands in this hand.

No decent player would shove that river without a boat or at minimum a high flush, the way it was played, the river bet was basically letting him know that you caught your flush draw and you're asking him if he can beat it, he says he can.

Unless I had a read telling me that this guy is either a maniac or a complete donk, I would let this hand go.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

i dont like any street

pf: fold

flop: cr

turn: c/f as played

river: crai, although betting is fine, but it's a fold as played i think. marginal. I don't hate a call.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Ok, so I shouldn\'t have called pf...

ya, crai is probably good on river actually, because he will bet Ax, and then will probably not fold when you shove cuz zomg he has trips
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