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09-18-2007, 01:55 AM
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88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
$50 single rebuy.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com UTG+1 (t5378) MP1 (t8020) MP2 (t6610) MP3 (t4370) CO (t11394) Button (t5215) SB (t5635) Hero (t4690) UTG (t6920) Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, SB calls t300. Flop: (t900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t5185 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??? 
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#2
09-18-2007, 02:02 AM
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Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
At a min he has Asx and if we optomistically say x is like 6 then were dodging 12 outs. Taking into account the times he has KJ with a spade or a spastic 2 pair, I fold this pretty easily and don't mind it at all.
Really wonder what other people have to say about this one. And how big a difference is 8s8x
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#5
09-18-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
While it would be nice to have a spade as part of our pocket eights I'm not sure if it makes a huge deal here.
it's a low flopped flush or a set a good portion of the time coupled with AsX that paired however its also 44-66 with a spade that doesn't want to see paint come off on the turn. It's close but I'd lean towards a fold because we are drawing dead to a good portion of his range and flipping with the other half.
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#7
09-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
Called and was 49% to win, which was better than pot odds.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com UTG+1 (t5378) MP1 (t8020) MP2 (t6610) MP3 (t4370) CO (t11394) Button (t5215) SB (t5635) Hero (t4690) UTG (t6920) Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, SB calls t300. Flop: (t900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t5185 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t4240 (All-In). Turn: (t10325) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: (t10325) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t10325 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has 9c Qs (flush, queen high). Hero has 8c 8d (one pair, eights). Outcome: SB wins t10325. </font>
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#8
09-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
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Called and was 49% to win, which was better than pot odds. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com UTG+1 (t5378) MP1 (t8020) MP2 (t6610) MP3 (t4370) CO (t11394) Button (t5215) SB (t5635) Hero (t4690) UTG (t6920) Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, SB calls t300. Flop: (t900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t5185 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t4240 (All-In). Turn: (t10325) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: (t10325) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t10325 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has 9c Qs (flush, queen high). Hero has 8c 8d (one pair, eights). Outcome: SB wins t10325. </font> [/ QUOTE ] I fold here with 88. Villain could have flush draw and two over cards and ahead on the flop. Edit: nothing wrong with calling. It's different playing style. I may save my stack here for better spots in other post flop plays.
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#10
09-18-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes
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I fold here with 88. Villain could have flush draw and two over cards and ahead on the flop. Edit: nothing wrong with calling. It's different playing style. I may save my stack here for better spots in other post flop plays. [/ QUOTE ] I think here you're almost always going to see either 1)the As 2)one pair so you're occasionally flipping (if he has another over), occasionally 60/40, and occasionally like 3:1 or something. So I call. In a bigger buyin tournament that's slower and deeper, you might find better spots for your stack. In one of these, though, this is good enough.
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