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Old 09-18-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

I learned the hard way yesterday. mental note fold
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

fold 88 snap TT
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

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fold 88 snap TT

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Why, because you looked at results and saw villain had a 9 in his hand?
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:55 AM
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I learned the hard way yesterday. mental note fold

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fold 88 snap TT

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

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I think here you're almost always going to see either
1)the As
2)one pair
so you're occasionally flipping (if he has another over), occasionally 60/40, and occasionally like 3:1 or something. So I call.
In one of these, though, this is good enough.

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Agree.
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

couldn't the villain already have a made crappy flush
with this push? i'm thinking his all-in is to protect
against a higher one-spade-to-go flush draw...

( and of course, really hoping for a fold... )
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

Yeh, I think a flush or a set are possible. Two pair or an overpair are real unlikely. Villain could have a 7 or a lower pp. Usually he has a flush draw. Overall, you are ahead of pot odds versus his weighted range.
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:00 PM
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couldn't the villain already have a made crappy flush
with this push? i'm thinking his all-in is to protect
against a higher one-spade-to-go flush draw...

( and of course, really hoping for a fold... )

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not in a million years
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

900 in the pot and he bets 5K. Not even worth the risk. It's like calling a huge overbet with a straight on the board, it's just not worth it.
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 88 on 732 monochrome flop BvB and opponent overbet pushes

Villain absolutely never does this with a flush, or a set, and can't have two pair.

So what you normally get is like Ks7x, As7x, or a 15 outer. Looks like you have to call if only slightly.
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