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flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
only like 50 hands with villain hes like 35/7
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG ($27.60) MP ($25.35) Hero ($27) Button ($25) SB ($24.65) BB ($26.80) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero ...play fast or see what happens? |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
I call the minbet and c/c any none heart turn and river and obviously bet/raise if my flush completes..
And yes, I'am a calling station.. |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
Check-minraise usually means draw or monster. Preflop juicer bet makes me think you are likely against another FD but who knows. I play him for those two possibilities (draw/monster) and call flop. On turn I call if he near-pots it and bet if he checks or bets weakly. If he bets three streets and I don't improve I fold river.
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
I play it fast while you have an advantage over most hands but sets. B/3B/Call shove would be good on this flop.
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
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I play it fast while you have an advantage over most hands but sets. B/3B/Call shove would be good on this flop. [/ QUOTE ] i was about to...i just didnt think my edge was big enough against hands like aa to make up for the time he doest have a set...am i a nit for playing it like this? Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG ($27.60) MP ($25.35) Hero ($27) Button ($25) SB ($24.65) BB ($26.80) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1. Turn: ($5.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.35</font>, Hero calls $5.35. River: ($16.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $-3.70 |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
I still think you played it right. You had position, a great draw, reasonable disguise, and a weakly made hand...playing it fast is unnecessary and a focus on the straight draw portion of the range (6 outs) is misguided.
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
Raise flop to $5 or so. Call if he shoves. Even if you are behind you have a big flush draw, an overcard, and backdoor straight. You have plenty of outs, if behind.
On turn - I think calling is very bad. I think you are in a raise/fold spot on turn. This is why raising the flop is best; you avoid these situations. Calling is throwing away money, in my opinion. If you hit flush on river, he'll check and you won't get paid anyways. |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
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Raise flop to $5 or so. Call if he shoves. Even if you are behind you have a big flush draw, an overcard, and backdoor straight. You have plenty of outs, if behind. On turn - I think calling is very bad. I think you are in a raise/fold spot on turn. This is why raising the flop is best; you avoid these situations. Calling is throwing away money, in my opinion. If you hit flush on river, he'll check and you won't get paid anyways. [/ QUOTE ] Ok..everyone likes to be aggressive so lets turn this situation around. If you have AA (almost exactly a coinflip) against Hero in this hand and you know that your opponent has K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. What is YOUR best flop result?...TO GET ALL THE MONIES IN THE MIDDLE. Now if its the best result for AA can it be the best result for K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] too?...NO To say villain can get away (sometimes) when the flush hits neglects the fact that WE get away with about 75% of our stack when we whiff...which, with position will be a much much better % than what villain can get away with here when we hit. Its our turn to take advantage of RIO...use it. The only downside of this approach is a triple barrel bluff...which is rare and not part of the read given. |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
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Raise flop to $5 or so. Call if he shoves. Even if you are behind you have a big flush draw, an overcard, and backdoor straight. You have plenty of outs, if behind. On turn - I think calling is very bad. I think you are in a raise/fold spot on turn. This is why raising the flop is best; you avoid these situations. Calling is throwing away money, in my opinion. If you hit flush on river, he'll check and you won't get paid anyways. [/ QUOTE ] yeah i mean by callign the flop i made the decision to play the hadn slow instead of fast...i was just thinking he had a set or something and was paranoid because ive been taking some beats lately and wanted to see if it was affected my game. thanks for the help guys |
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Re: flopped tp+fd facing turn check minraise
There really is no wrong way to play this hand. Just calling is fine, since you could very well have the best hand and you're way ahead of villains range.
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