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Old 09-14-2007, 09:39 PM
ceavou22 ceavou22 is offline
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Default PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

Hi,

Villain is 18/8 over about 40 hands and is playing on 2/4 of my tables. I know not many hands for his stats but does his check-raise make this an easy fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t1380)
SB (t2200)
BB (t2465)
UTG (t1425)
UTG+1 (t1485)
MP1 (t1325)
Hero (t2035)
CO (t1185)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t150, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t500</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t775

Thanks.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:03 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

i go broke here. 18/8 is not that tight.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:09 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

john, thats reasonable tag, what decent range can you put villain on here that make going broke here ok?
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

I can`t see what we beat here if he is a "solid" player
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:23 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

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john, thats reasonable tag, what decent range can you put villain on here that make going broke here ok?

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55-99
AT, ATs KTs
AJ-AK

villian is unknown and more often than not their range is much wider than one would think. i would consider 12/7 more tag stats, but with such a small sample of hands i am not too worried about stats, i would go more with the read that villian is unknown.

i would obviouosly be worried if villian was a known solid/winning player.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

its a 6.50 hero raises all in, makes note if villain shows qq-aa.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

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I can`t see what we beat here if he is a "solid" player

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we have no indication that he is a solid player.

also, i just noticed this is $6.5, this is a really easy shove imo.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

i go broke here like every time in a 6.50
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

Lol yea I was expecting the "its a 6.50" responses and I normally do go broke here all the time.

Jon,

I agree those stas aren't too tight but 55-99, AJ+ don't seem like a large part of his range once he CRs.

If I give him a range on flop after he check-raises that is slightly looser than a regular/solid player of AT, KT, TT+ I'm behind and have to fold right?
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: PS 6.50 - Folding JJ as overpair L3

gobroke
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