PL $1/2 - clean up outs, or....?

[DaSpade]

I have been thinking of the concept of cleaning up outs that is often mentioned here, and am wondering if this hand is a good example to implement it?

What do you think is the better play:
1. Just call flop/turn to let the third player in.
2. Raise the flop to try making it HU.
3. Shove the turn.
4. Any other better line?

SB: 72/33/2.2 over 200 hands - playing true to his stats.
UTG: 42/13/4 ~150 hands - slightly tilty and berating another player he stacked off to about 10hands ago.

Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $957.65
BB: $155.40
UTG: $140.55
Hero (BTN): $194.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, SB calls $4.00

Flop: ($18) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00, SB calls $12.00

Turn: ($54) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $54.00</font>, Hero calls $54.00, SB calls $54.00

Pot Size: $216.00 ($2 Rake)

[Hoopster81]

I'd pot the flop

[Ribbo]

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I'd pot the flop

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I wouldn't. Your hand plays so much better with multiple opponents than heads up. Especially when you consider a nut flush draw will not fold the flop no matter how much you bet, so you only risk getting it in as a dog there.

[Hoopster81]

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I'd pot the flop

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I wouldn't. Your hand plays so much better with multiple opponents than heads up. Especially when you consider a nut flush draw will not fold the flop no matter how much you bet, so you only risk getting it in as a dog there.

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If OP switches positions w/ UTG (is the PFR), and gets his c-bet potted by Villain in MP, how do you respond?

[wazz]

Flat-calling flop is probably best for the reasons ribbo mentioned. If you're trying to get rid of the nut flush draw the turn is the place to do it. You may have the best hand here, and if you don't you have lots of outs but would prefer it HU, so I would shove the turn to try to fold out SB.

[pete fabrizio]

i raise the flop in position. barring that i push turn.

[alavet]

shoving turn looks okay but it looks like we faced with a set of kings

[Parlay Slow]

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I'd pot the flop

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I wouldn't. Your hand plays so much better with multiple opponents than heads up. Especially when you consider a nut flush draw will not fold the flop no matter how much you bet, so you only risk getting it in as a dog there.

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good analysis (not sarcasm)

[pete fabrizio]

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I'd pot the flop

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I wouldn't. Your hand plays so much better with multiple opponents than heads up. Especially when you consider a nut flush draw will not fold the flop no matter how much you bet, so you only risk getting it in as a dog there.

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good analysis (not sarcasm)

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it's better played for more money than less money, regardless of the number of opponents.

[Petteri]

I would usually raise flop.

Since you called flop, you should push turn. You have strong hand.

These kind of hands are key to success in Omaha, you have give heat when you have goods.