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#1
10-30-2007, 10:48 PM
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1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
UTG is running 20/10 or so, BB is a donkey, and SB is reasonably tight. What do you think of this shove?
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter MP2: $370 CO: $54.50 Hero (BTN): $196 SB: $184.95 BB: $58.85 UTG: $235.95 UTG+1: $265.40 MP1: $260.45 CO posts $2 Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) <font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $6, CO calls $4, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4 Flop: ($36) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $16</font>, BB calls $16, UTG calls $16, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $190 and is All-In</font> ... 
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#3
10-30-2007, 11:25 PM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
I would just call. Anything that calls your all in is ahead of you. If a tight SB is leading out into 3 people he could easily have a set. UTG probably has a King, maybe AK, and is scared to make a move against the SB because he is tight.
I guess it could be good for your image, but the only hands I think that call you are sets or two pair.
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#4
10-31-2007, 01:09 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
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I would just call. Anything that calls your all in is ahead of you. If a tight SB is leading out into 3 people he could easily have a set. UTG probably has a King, maybe AK, and is scared to make a move against the SB because he is tight. I guess it could be good for your image, but the only hands I think that call you are sets or two pair. [/ QUOTE ] I'm quite happy if one-pair hands fold.
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#5
10-31-2007, 01:16 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
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but the only hands I think that call you are sets or two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Umm, that would be a good thing because it means we usually aren't getting called and pick up the pot.
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#7
10-31-2007, 01:50 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
based on what exactly?
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#8
10-31-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
If I had ideas of their aggression I could give a better explanation. What does a tight SB lead out with into four people with? A weak lead that wants to get raised is what I would guess in this situation.
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#9
10-31-2007, 02:03 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
considering how many FDs and straight draws and combos of both are likely to be out, id think he prob bets a good bit more w/ a made hand here to keep from getting outdrawn. this seems more like a combo draw type hand that wouldnt mind felting the flop but also doesnt mind multiple callers.
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#10
10-31-2007, 02:33 AM
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Re: 1/2: I overbet shove in a spot I usually just call
I think this is a very easy shove
SB is the only person I'm worried about, as any reasonable caller would be raising 2pair+. Futuredoc has a good point about bet sizing too, Sb would usually lead more if he was very strong. Most importantly, there is over 1/3 of a stack out there to be taken.
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