50nl 6max: 22 vs ??? Can i make him fold?

[meleader2]

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Fold preflop. I'm serious.

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Calling PF for set value is fine, IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]It's not spew but this is the kind of player I should think would be raising very wide from CO. When you miss, MOST of the time you end up c/f (like if he cbet here). You can't profitably call and c/r any flop. 3betting is too loose IMO. When you do make a set you get paid off so infrequently and this hand is impossible to play postflop OOP... I just fold it.

I call on the button FWIW.

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y does everyone ignore the 18pfa stat here? do you not notice this? if i hit a 2 and he cbets i'm getting alot of $ here. is that inconceivable?

suddenly he checks flop. he clearly doesn't have an ace, but i can't just bet the turn and give up if called. i could just give up completely, but i have NOT made any moves at all yet at this table.

i mean really, i might as well have 77 here cuz it's the same situation. and if i said i had 77 in my OP i'm sure the responses would be different.