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#11
08-15-2006, 12:42 PM
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Re: KQ off
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go [/ QUOTE ] What are you trying to accomplish with a flop check/raise? [/ QUOTE ] Hang me out to dry with this one , but I ain't donk betting the flop. I really don't want to call down. So its either a rasie or folding. And I think folding is pretty weak, on the basis that your giving him credit for the A or pocket K/Q's. Thats my explantion now tell me why i'm wrong [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] (which i'm sure you will) [/ QUOTE ] I think the main thing if ahead here we really don't want our villian to fold. Also depending on what range you put an unknown on here we are probably in pretty bad shape. Edit to add i would not donk this flop. 
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#13
08-15-2006, 12:47 PM
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Re: KQ off
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I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go [/ QUOTE ] The bad thing about this line is your probably just getting called down by KK.
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#14
08-15-2006, 12:52 PM
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Re: KQ off
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go [/ QUOTE ] What are you trying to accomplish with a flop check/raise? [/ QUOTE ] Hang me out to dry with this one , but I ain't donk betting the flop. I really don't want to call down. So its either a rasie or folding. And I think folding is pretty weak, on the basis that your giving him credit for the A or pocket K/Q's. Thats my explantion now tell me why i'm wrong [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] (which i'm sure you will) [/ QUOTE ] I think the main thing if ahead here we really don't want our villian to fold. Also depending on what range you put an unknown on here we are probably in pretty bad shape. Edit to add i would not donk this flop. [/ QUOTE ] Can understand where you are coming from now. I'll keep and eye on this thread [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#15
08-15-2006, 12:53 PM
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Re: KQ off
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I think my plan is to call down to aggression. C/r the flop is worthless for info on an unknown. I think because we got a piece of it, we have equity to call down. There's no real equity to raise it at any point. [/ QUOTE ] OK, so on the flop, you put him on a range of hands, and there are a good number we beat of them, making folding bad. However, of that set, how many bet the turn? How many continue to bet the river?
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#17
08-15-2006, 12:56 PM
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Re: KQ off
I'm probably more likely to go c/c, c/f UI, even though I don't like it. Without a read though, I'll take the safe route until I get one.
I've seen myself call too many bets w/ a 2nd best in the past. I don't think it's turned me weak, but I think we're behind more hands the average player will 3 bet: AQ, AK, AQs, AKs, KQs, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT. There's not much profit there in calling down. I probably have too narrow a range for villain's three bet. I certainly 3-bet more stuff.
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#18
08-15-2006, 01:11 PM
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Re: KQ off
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[ QUOTE ] I think my plan is to call down to aggression. C/r the flop is worthless for info on an unknown. I think because we got a piece of it, we have equity to call down. There's no real equity to raise it at any point. [/ QUOTE ] OK, so on the flop, you put him on a range of hands, and there are a good number we beat of them, making folding bad. However, of that set, how many bet the turn? How many continue to bet the river? [/ QUOTE ] Don't u think all hands in his flop range bet the turn to be able to show down on the river? We can have KJ or something for all he knows. But I don't think a hand worse than top pair will bet this river. So maybe c/c flop and turn and fold river UI?
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