3/5nl

[Damntra]

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i don't care how bad the players are, its almost doubtlessly negative ev for you to play in that game.

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heh, it sure seems that way. How about if this was a 500max or uncapped game? Would this still be a pretty bad game to play in?

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I think so. The rake is absolutely ridiculous.

[Dennisa]

Except for the dollar on the button, this is the identical structure of the Commerce game. Its quite profitable. I think theytake a 5th dollar on the turn. No flop, just a dollar drop at the commerce.

[GiantBuddha]

This rake isn't even close to being unbeatable. $4/hand * 30 hands/hour = $120/hour that's coming off the table. That's the same as paying $6/half in time charge. High, yes. Unbeatable, not at all.

40BB is an awkward stack size, but in a live game you should find it easy enough to get all your chips in on the flop and get a quick double up. Play a solid short stack strategy and once you and some opponents have doubled up, you're 80BB deep. This will be very boring, no doubt, but also profitable. The key to making the best hourly rate in a game with such a low buy in is playing longer sessions. Once you double up or better, your winrate should go up.

And since it's an immediate drop, stealing the blinds is worthless. Just find someone who will play with you for all their chips when they're taking the worst of it. I'm sure most of the players will fit this description.

[smolik75]

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Except for the dollar on the button, this is the identical structure of the Commerce game. Its quite profitable. I think theytake a 5th dollar on the turn. No flop, just a dollar drop at the commerce.

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They only take rake preflop every hand no matter what. After that there is no extra drop.


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This rake isn't even close to being unbeatable. $4/hand * 30 hands/hour = $120/hour that's coming off the table. That's the same as paying $6/half in time charge. High, yes. Unbeatable, not at all.

40BB is an awkward stack size, but in a live game you should find it easy enough to get all your chips in on the flop and get a quick double up. Play a solid short stack strategy and once you and some opponents have doubled up, you're 80BB deep. This will be very boring, no doubt, but also profitable. The key to making the best hourly rate in a game with such a low buy in is playing longer sessions. Once you double up or better, your winrate should go up.

And since it's an immediate drop, stealing the blinds is worthless. Just find someone who will play with you for all their chips when they're taking the worst of it. I'm sure most of the players will fit this description.

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Yeah I've pretty much just ignored stealing blinds because not only is it pointless, there are always too many players in the hand to be able to steal. I'm lost as to what is a profitable shortstack strategy? Am I basically looking to play pairs for set value and big cards hoping to get it all in with a hand like tptk or combo draw? I just can't figure out what I'm exactly looking to do. It seems just trying to outplay opponents postflop isn't as affective because of being short. I just can't find the best way to get that first double up. Should I open up my range and try to take a lot of flops, or basically play lock down poker where I'm just looking to get it in?