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Old 10-26-2007, 06:59 PM
crovax4444 crovax4444 is offline
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Default 10 NL fighting 2 maniacs facing a push (again)

Short maniac is something like 70/20/2 over 36 hands, he's been quiet for a while, but he's still retarded

Deep maniac sucked out on me, going AI with AT on a T23 board (I bet, he pushed, I showed a set, he runner runnered a straight) Basically I know he's willing to push with as little as TP. He's 67/33/1.4, but sample size is only 15 (aka ignore this stat) and the read is more important

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $8.35
BTN: $4.40
SB: $16.55
Hero (BB): $10

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.30) 8 (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4.30 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $16.45 and is All-In</font>, Hero goes wtf

Their ranges are so wide open, but short maniac going AI is fairly suspicious. Big maniac has been quiet for about 1 orbit and now decides to play. What do you do with bottom 2-pair?

Crovax

Edited to fix stats, they still both have maniac reads by me, despite their limited stats
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Kelley22 Kelley22 is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL fighting 2 maniacs facing a push (again)

easy fold. As they say don't go broke in a limped pot.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: 10 NL fighting 2 maniacs facing a push (again)

I think this is a fold most times.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:54 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL fighting 2 maniacs facing a push (again)

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easy fold. As they say don't go broke in a limped pot.

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yes its an easy fold, but ive always thought this rule is crap...whats it matter if its raised or limped
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: 10 NL fighting 2 maniacs facing a push (again)

This is definitely a fold, we have bottom two pair on a 3 heart board with two people all-in ahead of us.

Micro Donk,
I'm not positive, but I think you can think about it with a viewpoint to SPR. We don't have much of our stack in, so when we get a whole stack in, unless villain is a complete fish, we're probably behind.
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