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Old 07-15-2007, 09:15 AM
B_ing B_ing is offline
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Default TPTK heads up with many draws

Hello! Maybe I played this a bit too agressive, what do YOU think??

Opponent is 45.5/3.3/1.1 after 44 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:46 AM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

Turn card is not really a good one here as villian can make his st8 there as well as have several different hands. I would hate to see 3 bets go in on the turn with that board.....I like a call on the turn and pop the river if the [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes.
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

*grunch*

Flop: I would probably do raise after BB donk(if BB has K so probably c/r, he can also be at FD or weak Q)
When he do 3bet then i know my Q pair is weak and then only call flop.

Turn: If BB dont have st8 then our hand is best now.
I would raise donk turn and when BB do 3bet then i call to fold at river UI FD or make cry call cus pot is quite big and there are still little chance villan has worse 2piar or busted FD.
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

[ QUOTE ]
Hello! Maybe I played this a bit too agressive, what do YOU think??

[/ QUOTE ]
Yes.

And you don't have TPTK, either. Your made hand, a pair of Queens, is decisively weak on this board. It's worth a little something, don't get me wrong, but the royal flush draw is worth a lot more.

The Ace gives you two pair but makes the board even stronger. Don't raise. You have 9 outs to a flush, 4 to a full house, and 3 J's to chop.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:25 PM
TarHeel100 TarHeel100 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

I think the flop raise is fine, but I'm not capping this flop. BB looks to be fairly passive, so he's not 3-betting you without at least top pair.

I actually ran this on pokerstove and put in a Villain range of AKs, AKo, AJs, AJo, and KQs-K9s and KQo-K9o because he is betting like he has at least top pair. I figured if he had AA, KK, QQ, JJ, or TT he probably would have defended his blind with a 3-bet so I didn't include those. Even if you include JJ or TT though you still have a slight edge of 1%-3%.

Turns out your equity vs. that range on this flop is approx. 52%, so you may have a tiny edge here, but given how coordinated the board is you could also be pretty far behind. With a possible edge that tiny, I think I just call the flop 3-bet and re-evaluate on the turn.

I think the turn and river are fine.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

He's never "pretty far behind" with 9 outs to the nuts.

You also need to add some hands to his range if you're 'Stoving: QT and J9 are obvious omissions.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

Turn doesn't have to be raised. You have 4 outs to fill up and another 9 outs to a flush. Enough equity to call, but not enough to raise, especially when a somewhat passive guy donkbets after your flop cap.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

Don't cap the flop, and then call down, you are either far ahead or far behind.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

GRUNCH

Given that this is blind defense, the only thing I can complain too much about is the flop cap. Otherwise it looks pretty good.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: TPTK heads up with many draws

pf fine
flop cap fine, for value and also importantly b/c you are in position
call turn
call riv
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