trying that 4bet thing

[FGators]

Stars $1/2. I've got $280ish and I cover the villain, BHold. Pretty aggressive, seems alright.

I raise the CO to $8 with JJ, he makes it $28, I make it $68, he pushes for $155 more.

History: we had been three-betting each other a decent amount and a lot in the past.

So, uh, my gut says fold because I see QQ-AA a lot.

This is why I hate NOT cold calling.

First off is this an alright play by me...secondly should I call?

[gimmetheloot]

uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

[FenixOnTilt]

25% vs QQ+,AKs => BE call
18% vs QQ+ => ez fold
36% vs QQ+,AKs,AKo => ez call

read dependent.. does he push AK here?

[loosbastard]

I REALLY don't like 4-betting here w/ a hand as solid as JJ. You're folding out TT and below...and he's never folding QQ+.
I generally like calling here and C/R AI on a lot of flops.

[DefiNe]

[ QUOTE ]
uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

[/ QUOTE ]

are we levelling

[gimmetheloot]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

[/ QUOTE ]

are we levelling

[/ QUOTE ]

are you?

[AE6]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

[/ QUOTE ]

are we levelling

[/ QUOTE ]
NO

[DefiNe]

Why on God's green earth are we 4-betting here then? To define our hand? If so, LOL

For value damnit and that's why you presto call this like your life depends on it wtf

[DefiNe]

given history etc. then being close to 1.5 buy-ins deep ALMOST makes this worth a thread

edit - ALMOST

[loosbastard]

Not meaning to hijack this thread...but this has been a subject I've been thinking a lot about lately. In general, common knowledge says that the wider your range, the tougher you are to play against. Now in regards to 4-betting ranges, would it not be better to have your range polarized towards nuts or air?