Andy started it

[SA125]

And vmacosta chimed in, so here's some more raising turns with bananas.

50-100 HOE game. Villain in this hand plays very well. His one leak to me is over playing pp's pf in the holdem rounds. He can be tricky post flop, but he mostly plays ABC.

His view of me is likely that I'm tight, play holdem better than H/L and better sober than when drinking.

UTG limps, he does this with 76s type hands, and villain raises next in. Read big Bway's or pp's. I coldcall in MP with AQo. BB calls. 4 way.

Flop Tc 6s 4h. Ch'd to villain who bets, I call with the intention of raising any turn.

Turn 8x he bets, I raise.

Comments?

[Entity]

HU on the turn?

[SA125]

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HU on the turn?

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Yes.

[private joker]

What's the deal with the preflop cold-call?

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

3-bet pre.

Against some guys this is a semi-standard mixing play to use some minority of the time; against others you're better off investing your two bets in a loose calldown. Either way, I wouldn't call this a "big" bluff in the sense that Andy's hand is, because a lot of your equity is underwritten by those times that you're just raising for value.

[andyfox]

Your hand would be consistent with pocket 8s, 6s or 4s. If 8x = 8d, I like it more than if the turn created a flush draw.

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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Your hand would be consistent with pocket 8s, 6s or 4s. If 8x = 8d, I like it more than if the turn created a flush draw.

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One problem with that is that 8's probably have to raise the flop with two players to act behind them, as do most other paired hands like JTs. So there aren't that many hands for you to represent.

[SA125]

He thought for a bit and folded 66. I just realized I put a 6 on the flop in OP. Flop must have been T74. I know he told guy next to him he had 66 and guy said I must've had AT. LOL. I know board was T high.

As for the pf coldcall rather than 3 bet, two things.

One may not be right, but it's how I look at it. I hate coldcalling in general, but this is the kind of spot I'll do it. With AQo to a solid but possibly suspect EP raiser. I don't love AQo against EP raises. I'll auto 3 bet them in LP when it's open raised by MP.

Second is specific to the villain. I feel that his range gives me room to take the hand away later with a coldcall. Only good players fold, so his liberal raising with any pp sets him up for pressurized turn raises. Not so easy for 33-77 on a lot of boards.

He's thinking what's my range that coldcalls pf but now raises the turn?

Tx for the responses.

[Analyst]

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He thought for a bit and folded 66.

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What?? He was that convinced that you would only play 88 or TT (really, only TT given the flop play) like this? Not that I'm having an easy time putting you on many other hands, but still, I'm nowhere good enough to fold a set here.

[SA125]

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What??He was that convinced that you would only play 88 or TT (really, only TT given the flop play) like this? Not that I'm having an easy time putting you on many other hands, but still, I'm nowhere good enough to fold a set here.

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LOL. Come on man. A little slack please. There's no HH's live and I don't carry pen and paper. Look at my edit.