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Old 09-27-2007, 05:41 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $38.20
BB: $36.60
UTG: $21.70
Hero (CO): $35.80
BTN: $39.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $20.45</font>, Hero calls $12.45


villain was around 17/9/8. i didn't really know what to do on the flop, so i decided to raise, then called getting almost 3 to 1. is this line okay?
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

I would fold, but I guess calling isnt terrible. At least a small % of time he is still drawing to the hEarts maybe?
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

do you take the same flop line?
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

bump cause i gots to go soon
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:09 PM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

Don't raise the flop. When a guy like that leads into you on this board, he's 3betting AI more often than not. I doubt he's ever doing this with a hand you have any FE against, and your hand has plenty of showdown value, so just call. I call the shove on the theory that he's drawing a lot, but it's hard to be happy about it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

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You are never ahead on this AI call. Just flat call the flop, your hand is now an OESD, your TP is worthless when a 17/9 bets PSB into you. He has 2pr+ or at the worst a nice combo draw with hearts.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

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You are never ahead on this AI call. Just flat call the flop, your hand is now an OESD, your TP is worthless when a 17/9 bets PSB into you. He has 2pr+ or at the worst a nice combo draw with hearts.

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Did you also see the part where he has an AF of 8?
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:51 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

his high agg. factor is why i played this hand like i did. i thought he is b/3bing me with a draw enough of the time, but i don't really know in retrospect.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

So call the flop, fold to a 3/4 pot bet on the turn if you miss your straight?

If a K comes on the turn and he checks are you betting? I think I'd make like a half pot bet and fold to a raise, or if he calls I'm folding to a substantial river bet.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: NL25 tpnk on really drawy board

Ah this is fine sometimes given his AF.


Once you raise the flop calling his all-in is standard.
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