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Old 09-13-2007, 03:58 PM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Default 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

Villain in this hand is playing very snug. like PFR under 10, VPIP under 15 over about 70 hands. i really havent got involved with him yet (imagine that). He should view me as taggy and not really as nitty as a lot of you guys likely view me. (plz dont tell anyone i dont play 16/13 anymore). I really think this hand might have a simple solution, but i thought i would get a second opinion, because i dont feel like going on aim right now. I was thinking that c/c turn, c/f river UI would be a better line in hindsight, but at the table, my thought process was more like, "HAY I HAS DRAWS I BET".

what do you guys think of my line, and how might you play it different?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $218.10
BB: $81.00
UTG: $234.85
Hero (MP): $219.90
CO: $306.25
BTN: $215.00

Reads: <font color="blue">lol nit on nit violence.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, CO calls $8.00, BTN calls $8.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($27) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, CO calls $18.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $84.00</font>, Hero calls $42.00

River: ($231) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $196.25</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $427.25 ($3 Rake)
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:02 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

If he's really nitty I like C/C turn.

As played you obviously have to call the minraise because he's pricing you in. Open shove if you hit a T or [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] obv.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:03 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

I def c/c turn. That was my initial reaction, even before realising you got raised. Fold riv obv.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

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(plz dont tell anyone i dont play 16/13 anymore)

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What, did you become a total spewtard now? Traitor.

Did you fail to notice that you have a COMBINATION OF DRAWS on the turn? As played I think this is ok; you're getting 2:1 to shove on the turn, but I think he has a set a lot and certainly is hardly ever bluffing so your top pair doesn't count for much.

If I checked the turn, though, it's ARR IN when he bets.

EDIT: ^ = nits, c/c turn wtf you have MORE THAN ONE DRAW AND TAWP PAIR.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

i would also like to point out that HH converters tilt me, because they dont include the rake and make my bet sizes look really pussy sized in compared to the pot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

goof,
when you c/r ai on this board against this specific player, is it for value, for FE or what? c/c seems superior in this situation.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

FE and balance.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

goof,
i dont really think that he's really folding many better hands here on the turn. also, i think that balance may be overrated when not playing vs. regulars.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

he would have to be a huge nit to c/c, cause aggro players will have a easy time taking the pot away from you on river with that line.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | When nits attack!.....other nits!

omfg you just put me on life tilt by using the word "snug"

i couldn't read the rest of it
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