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09-09-2007, 04:27 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yes, he did have two legal guns. But when I hear about this [censored], I want to allow people to defend themselves with rocket launchers and grenades. I can't believe that this kind of [censored] is allowed to fly at all in our country. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this sentiment. This story makes me wonder if people should have greater legal recourse over recklessly conducted SWAT raids. Having more weapons in the hands of suspects is just going to make SWAT raids more violent, more dangerous, and easier to defend. [/ QUOTE ] Or perhaps the government wouldn't go busting around like this if the people could defend themselves. I can think of no justifiable reason for this to occur AT ALL. [/ QUOTE ] The people at Waco had lots of guns. 
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#12
09-09-2007, 04:32 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yes, he did have two legal guns. But when I hear about this [censored], I want to allow people to defend themselves with rocket launchers and grenades. I can't believe that this kind of [censored] is allowed to fly at all in our country. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this sentiment. This story makes me wonder if people should have greater legal recourse over recklessly conducted SWAT raids. Having more weapons in the hands of suspects is just going to make SWAT raids more violent, more dangerous, and easier to defend. [/ QUOTE ] Or perhaps the government wouldn't go busting around like this if the people could defend themselves. I can think of no justifiable reason for this to occur AT ALL. [/ QUOTE ] You are 100% correct. The people in the house were not doing anyone harm. There was one criminal gang and they were the police who violently assaulted a group of people.
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#13
09-09-2007, 04:45 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Or perhaps the government wouldn't go busting around like this if the people could defend themselves. I can think of no justifiable reason for this to occur AT ALL. [/ QUOTE ] The people at Waco had lots of guns. [/ QUOTE ] This case is clearly not Waco. I'm not saying that force is NEVER justifiable. But the way that it was done, and for the REASONS that it was done, should never happen.
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#14
09-09-2007, 04:53 PM
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A 2004 article, written in as inflammatory manner as possible. what a waste of 5 minutes of a Sunday
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09-09-2007, 04:58 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Or perhaps the government wouldn't go busting around like this if the people could defend themselves. I can think of no justifiable reason for this to occur AT ALL. [/ QUOTE ] The people at Waco had lots of guns. [/ QUOTE ] This case is clearly not Waco. I'm not saying that force is NEVER justifiable. But the way that it was done, and for the REASONS that it was done, should never happen. [/ QUOTE ] I don't disagree at all. I just don't understand how adding more guns to the situation would do anything but create more violence, danger, and destruction.
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09-09-2007, 07:04 PM
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I don't disagree at all. I just don't understand how adding more guns to the situation would do anything but create more violence, danger, and destruction. [/ QUOTE ] this homeowner owned a gun, but he didn't start shooting up the police. being armed gives a responsible citizen the opportunity to protect the lives of himself and his family, even from the police if need be. however, this doesn't mean that a responsible citizen will just take to his arms and start shooting if there are other means of resolution.
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09-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Or perhaps the government wouldn't go busting around like this if the people could defend themselves. I can think of no justifiable reason for this to occur AT ALL. [/ QUOTE ] The people at Waco had lots of guns. [/ QUOTE ] This case is clearly not Waco. I'm not saying that force is NEVER justifiable. But the way that it was done, and for the REASONS that it was done, should never happen. [/ QUOTE ] Are you saying Waco was justified? Go watch Waco: Rules of Engagement -- it will amaze you.
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09-09-2007, 08:10 PM
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Are you saying Waco was justified? Go watch Waco: Rules of Engagement -- it will amaze you. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not saying that it WAS justified, but that this was a completely different situation. Waco was a seige. This was just a raid.
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09-09-2007, 08:12 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Are you saying Waco was justified? Go watch Waco: Rules of Engagement -- it will amaze you. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not saying that it WAS justified, but that this was a completely different situation. Waco was a seige. This was just a raid. [/ QUOTE ] For the record, Waco was a siege following a raid that went bad.
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