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Old 11-25-2007, 04:26 PM
JanelleBB7 JanelleBB7 is offline
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Default Examples of what is killing my game

I am reviewing my history in Pokertracker. I found a lot of hands that I played really standard on and lost just due to variance i.e. push with top trips and opponent catches their flush or straight... nothing I can really do to change those situations.

But after I took a lot of beatings it caused me to start playing "gun shy" in the beginning with strong starting hands and then when I have no shot at winning "over playing". This is an example of my slide into playing very weak with an extremely strong starting hand.

Notice when I don't hit my magic trip on the flop, I just check the flop. I repeat this pattern of just calling the flop in order to see what the turn brings in several hands like this one.

When I see that no diamond hits on the turn, I push into the pot hoping to take it down. Then he reraises me... at which point I suspect he either has me beat or is drawing good.

This is what I think I should have done. I should have either potted the flop or even better reraise his bet on the flop.

But as played when he reraised me I really should have folded.

I notice as I go through my database I played a few hands like this, sugestions?

[BTW I know this hand was horribly played. I am just reviewing all my huge mistakes and want to correct them.]

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Janellebb7: $28.45
UTG+1: $16.40
MP1: $19.75
MP2: $25
MP3: $29.25
CO: $71.35
Button: $7.20
SB: $14.90
BB: $14.95

Pre-flop: (9 players) Janellebb7 is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Janellebb7 raises to $1.1</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.4, 3 players)
BB checks, Janellebb7 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $3.4</font>, BB folds, Janellebb7 calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.2, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Janellebb7 bets $10.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in $20.5</font>, Janellebb7 calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($51.2, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $51.2)


Results:
Final pot: $51.2
<font color="#cc0000">Janellebb7 showed Jh Jd Kh Kc</font>
<font color="#cc0000">MP2 showed 9c Kd 3s Ac</font>
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:56 PM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

This is really, really bad.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:00 PM
JanelleBB7 JanelleBB7 is offline
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

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This is really, really bad.

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Crush I don't need an echo. I already made that statement above. I am sure you never make any bad plays. All your plays are perfect.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

Why did you call the flop?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

note: I'm a hold'em player, now omaha hi player

why not 3/4 bet flop?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:42 PM
JanelleBB7 JanelleBB7 is offline
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

I am looking at this hand historically so this is my guess... I had taken a lot of bad beats and instead of betting out I had decided to check/call and see the turn. I wanted to see if a diamond turned.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:51 PM
Tartufo Tartufo is offline
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

I don't see the logic? You missed the flop; either make a cbet and give up if he calls and you don't improve, or just check-fold. This turn card is not good at all, so why invest more if you have horrible equity against all but a pure bluff?
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

What is the purpose of this post? Low content thread?

If you want us confirming this is bad and fps, you are right.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

if you were deeper i would c/r the turn.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: Examples of what is killing my game

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What is the purpose of this post?

[/ QUOTE ]Hi Blopp - I don't see how it could be any clearer:
[ QUOTE ]
I am reviewing my history in Pokertracker. I found a lot of hands that I played really standard on and lost just due to variance i.e. push with top trips and opponent catches their flush or straight... nothing I can really do to change those situations.

But after I took a lot of beatings it caused me to start playing "gun shy" in the beginning with strong starting hands and then when I have no shot at winning "over playing". This is an example of my slide into playing very weak with an extremely strong starting hand.

Notice when I don't hit my magic trip on the flop, I just check the flop. I repeat this pattern of just calling the flop in order to see what the turn brings in several hands like this one.

When I see that no diamond hits on the turn, I push into the pot hoping to take it down. Then he reraises me... at which point I suspect he either has me beat or is drawing good.

This is what I think I should have done. I should have either potted the flop or even better reraise his bet on the flop.

But as played when he reraised me I really should have folded.

I notice as I go through my database I played a few hands like this, sugestions?

[BTW I know this hand was horribly played. I am just reviewing all my huge mistakes and want to correct them.]

[/ QUOTE ]Doesn't that make the purpose of the post clear to you? If the poster does make the meaning clear, as is seems to me she does, why are you asking? Looks to me like maybe a thinly veiled attempt to belittle the poster. But why would you want to do that?

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Low content thread?

[/ QUOTE ]Why would this belong in the low content thread? Why do you care if it's in the low content thread or not? Suggesting it has low content seems an attempt to belittle the poster.

<font color="green">Please do not belittle posters on this forum.</font>

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If you want us confirming this is bad and fps, you are right.

[/ QUOTE ]No. That isn't what she wants. And it's not what she deserves.

Alas, you have evidently missed the point of the post.

It's all right if you don't catch on - but please don't insult other posters when you don't.

Buzz
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