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10-05-2007, 03:21 AM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
As stated here, the reasoning between the for the cold-call with AJs, KQs is that there will be enough people to enter the pot behind you.
How many would you need in the pot is a key question here (I don't know the number, somebody could calculate that, please?)- and the probability of that happening is dependent on the table texture and how many are still left to act behind you. Naturally, the UTG's raising standards also affect the decision. The typical online full ring I play (2/4 - 3/6, Ongame, Party, Stars and Prima) rarely has a flop-% much over 30%. In those games cold/calling is probably a mistake. Fold unless there's X LP's behind that could lure in the blind(s) as well. 
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10-05-2007, 12:58 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
You rock Snowball.
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10-04-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
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How does he not have you dominated most of the time? [/ QUOTE ] probably because this isnt true in Ed Miller's opinion.
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#6
10-04-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
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It seems very much like this is very obviously wrong if you're playing against someone with your exact same preflop standards. [/ QUOTE ] Yes it would be, but the assumption in Small Stakes Hold Em is that you are not playing against someone like that. They are also assuming that you will not end up heads up against the raiser, so the pot will still be multi-way in spite of the raise. AJs and KQs are good hands in a multiway pot. This is generally true in B&M small stakes games. I doubt this is true in online games anymore above the microlimits.
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#7
10-04-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
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[ QUOTE ] It seems very much like this is very obviously wrong if you're playing against someone with your exact same preflop standards. [/ QUOTE ] Yes it would be, but the assumption in Small Stakes Hold Em is that you are not playing against someone like that. [/ QUOTE ] Seems like a wacky assumption. [ QUOTE ] They are also assuming that you will not end up heads up against the raiser, so the pot will still be multi-way in spite of the raise. AJs and KQs are good hands in a multiway pot. [/ QUOTE ] But these are the "tight game" standards. Of course, he defines that as 3-5 players when really tables are more like 3 players on average, but still.
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#8
10-04-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
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Seems like a wacky assumption. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But these are the "tight game" standards. Of course, he defines that as 3-5 players when really tables are more like 3 players on average, but still. [/ QUOTE ] I take it you are an online player. I think these assumption probably are wacky for most online games, but not for a lot of B&M games.
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#9
10-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
If AJs and KQs are good multiway then why wouldn't we just call rather than r/r and squelch action behind?
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#10
10-04-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: Cold calling with AJs and KQs
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If AJs and KQs are good multiway then why wouldn't we just call rather than r/r and squelch action behind? [/ QUOTE ] Bingo.
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