5/10- River Bluff vs LeatherAss

[sauce123]

I assume since he plays 26 hourse a day everyone at this forum has played with him... preflop i called because both blinds were loose/passive and weak.

hmm my image is probably mediocre tag, wasnt playin with hud but probably 24/21 ish

in all my 2k+ hands with leather ive probably 3bet him slightly more often than most, specially in position, but i dont remember any huge bluffs/calls/ very out of line history.


#11773834238: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/08/30 - 11:49:27 (ET)
Table 'Menippe II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Leatherass9 ($1812 in chips)
Seat 2: Sauce123 ($975 in chips)
Seat 3: nutty_bar ($609 in chips)
Seat 4: Morag ($691.95 in chips)
nutty_bar: posts small blind $5
Morag: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sauce123 [7d 7h]
Leatherass9: raises $20 to $30
Sauce123: calls $30
nutty_bar: folds
Morag: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2s 9c 6c]
Morag: checks
Leatherass9: bets $70
Sauce123: calls $70
Morag: folds
*** TURN *** [2s 9c 6c] [4c]
Leatherass9: checks
Sauce123: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 9c 6c 4c] [4s]
Leatherass9: bets $175
Sauce123: raises $700 to $875 and is all-in

[JKratzer]

why not bet the turn?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

dislike a lot a lot a lot

[ipokeder]

bet the turn

this might work and it might not, your line certainly looks bluffy

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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actually, against him might be okay

[mythrilfox]

with given info i don't like this. he has posted in the past week or so that he can make big laydowns but you sound like the kind of guy who he's not going to give credit for a big hand here, and the kind of guy who might get a little fps/spewy and turn a hand with showdown value into a bluff. this is key because your range has a ton of such hands, plus 89 which missed.

his range on the river is probably overpair/flush/bluff/maybe good 9, all of which are probably going to call.

also as far as handreading goes from his perspective a flush would bet the turn some % of the time, a set is realllly unlikely given flop/turn (and pf to some extent - you might 3bet 66/99 a lot of the time as you indicated in your post)

yeah i just dont like this bluff at all.

[sauce123]

hmm.. ok let me just say that leather is probably the only 5/10 player id consider trying this on... maybe elky also i donno...

[mythrilfox]

i thought elky was spewtard! correct me if i'm wrong...

plus he just posted that big laydown like last week, i imagine people are trying to run him over all over the place... let it die down a bit before u try to push him off an overpair or w/e

[sauce123]

ok, its DEFINITELY not great. theres certain grinders who just hate to call off stacks on the river with mediocre made hands. leather is definitely solid but i htought this mind set might come into play a little...

[Ship Ship McGipp]

this is so much better if the turn is a 2, but i 'm sure you know that