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The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
$20-$40 near you:
Villian has just enough of a brain to get himself into trouble. He is capable of playing weak made hands or hand/draw combinations fairly strong. He is break-even at best. He views me as a TAG but likely thinks I am over agressive/trying to run him over at times, which is definitely true. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, I raise in MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Villan calls in BB, limpers call. Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Action: Checked to me, I bet, BB raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, I 3-bone, BB caps, UTG calls, I call. Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB bets, UTG folds, and I insta-raise Holla? |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
this situation looks like the opposite of a free showdown raise.
1) villain is never folding a better hand 2) you have a crapload of outs if behind 3) theres a very good chance you're ahead anyway |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
Regardless of what Kit said (which is definitely true and right along the lines of the free showdown raise talks we've been having), I still like the turn raise. You have 19 outs if behind (10 FH and 9 flush) and you could easily be ahead.
I doubt you're getting 3-bet here much because you have the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], as well. |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
btw only 7 for flush if we are behind...
are you folding the river if he does 3-barrel the turn and you dont improve? - could he 3-bet with a smaller set or even two pr hoping you have AsKc etc? if he is going to pay you off a lot lighter because you are bulldozer in his eyes i would bet the river if he just calls the 2-bet... |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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btw only 7 for flush if we are behind... are you folding the river if he does 3-barrel the turn and you dont improve? - could he 3-bet with a smaller set or even two pr hoping you have AsKc etc? if he is going to pay you off a lot lighter because you are bulldozer in his eyes i would bet the river if he just calls the 2-bet... [/ QUOTE ] Only 7 outs for a flush if behind? Um, we have top set and the nut flush redraw, so we've got 7 flush outs and 10 boat outs = 17 outs. Rob |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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[ QUOTE ] btw only 7 for flush if we are behind... are you folding the river if he does 3-barrel the turn and you dont improve? - could he 3-bet with a smaller set or even two pr hoping you have AsKc etc? if he is going to pay you off a lot lighter because you are bulldozer in his eyes i would bet the river if he just calls the 2-bet... [/ QUOTE ] Only 7 outs for a flush if behind? Um, we have top set and the nut flush redraw, so we've got 7 flush outs and 10 boat outs = 17 outs. Rob [/ QUOTE ] I am sure he meant 7 FLUSH outs, not 9 FLUSH outs as the other poster said (and of course the 10 boat/quad outs). |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
If he 3 bets me on the turn and leads the river, he is beating me.
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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If he 3 bets me on the turn and leads the river, he is beating me. [/ QUOTE ] You answered this already, he won't/can't cause you have the trump and have put in a ton of action. (not necessarily true as I somehow managed to go 5 bets on the flop and 5 on the turn when I flopped the nuts vs. a Jack high flush but that was a much different circumstance) |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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If he 3 bets me on the turn and leads the river, he is beating me. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't three bet you on the turn, right? Therefore, I think it is pretty unlikely that he has a flush. ie, if he has a decent flush, eg, Kigh or Queen high, then it would be hard for him to put you on a bigger flush combo that you are holding given your preflop raise. If he held a small flush he may not have three bet the turn, awaiting to see a non-flush card on the river. In this case, I would expect him to donk the river. Either way, you should get a least one more bet in on the river. |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
Easy raise on the turn.
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