"Jesus" advises Yang to stiff dealers? - Page 5

pkrporcupine · #41 07-19-2007, 06:32 AM

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I don't see how CF misled him.

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Jerry was told wrong numbers for who gets what from where. I personally think CF had no business being there unless JY invited him, which he may have, but he could have just told him the whole truth, thats all Im saying.

zaxx19 · #42 07-19-2007, 06:32 AM

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Good. Dealers who think they should be wealthy are idiots. Try going to college and getting a real job. You shouldnt be making $50/hour dealing poker.

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Not many people make 50 bucks an hr period...alot of people THINK they do but considering the corporate culture is now 24-7 and 55 hour work weeks are the norm ofr white collar slave types....combines with an expanding h1b program....

A good dealer deserves to be well paid...wealthy..no...but well compensated.

pkrporcupine · #43 07-19-2007, 06:38 AM

I dont get it

seemorenuts · #44 07-19-2007, 07:16 AM

Zero is the correct number. Ferguson and other big pros were criticized by some idiot at my 1/2 NL cash game table in Seneca Niagara for leaving only a collective $5 in tips during a cash game on some cruise boat that the idiot worked on or with. The idiot was in THEIR cash game and criticized them for not tipping much, and they asked him to leave the game.

The idiot came off as an 'arrogant know-it-all American' (and that's an insult to all you fine Americans, but I'm trying to paint a picture here). The goof continued to lecture us at the 1/2 NL table by lecturing, "if you don't tip, you can't afford to play at this table". Meanwhile, the poor beginner to my right is recently occupationally disabled and asking for advice as to how to make a living at this game from us.

Lastly, if any tipping is going on, give it to the other players who played, lol, us players have to stick together... ha ha ha... (unless service is extraordinary, and tips unpooled).

The best idea ever never gets any traction: tell all dealers that you are donating to a fund to annually award the best dealer in North America $100M for being the most proficient and effective... then set up an organization that does this. Sell buttons, organize judges, audits, etc. convince a rakefree poker site to protect and collect the money, all voluntary. Why? So the players and the dealers win. The casinos would have to cough up more money to keep them there and we'll have hedge fund managers vying for that cool $100M. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

jh12547 · #45 07-19-2007, 07:17 AM

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Good. Dealers who think they should be wealthy are idiots. Try going to college and getting a real job. You shouldnt be making $50/hour dealing poker.

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Why shouldn't I? I may not be the best dealer out there but I have a kick ass job that i love and why shouldn't i get paid well for a job that takes alot of skill and knowledge to be done right? Hell just having to put up with players with piss poor attitudes that blame their crappy play or poor luck on me and the cards i deal .....i should make alot more

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Agree 100%. amazing how people forget or dont even know the BS dealers have to go through

govman6767 · #46 07-19-2007, 07:23 AM

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Good. Dealers who think they should be wealthy are idiots. Try going to college and getting a real job. You shouldnt be making $50/hour dealing poker.

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QFT

seemorenuts · #47 07-19-2007, 07:47 AM

That's how I tip. I treat dealers with great respect and I protect them from abuse from other players the best I can.

I've often wondered if dealers could choose, which would it be, respect with a decent wage paid by the casino, or abuse with lower pay, dependent on tips (from people you often despise)?

Denmark, Australia, New Zealand and China have had traditions where tipping was considered a bit of an insult, moreover it servers to distort the dealers' ability or propensity to treat the players impartially.

laikeze · #48 07-19-2007, 08:37 AM

I think Dealers should get tipped well by the players, especially the players who play often and consider themselves pro's or parttime pro's. The dealers rely on tips for most of their income, if we the players tip less, we will see the competency level of most dealers lower because dealing would become a less desirable profession. And you will not make the casinos pay the dealers more, In the casino's view, a poker room filled with slot machines instead of poker tables would be more of a profit to them as there are less employees to worry about. So let's tip the dealers who perform well.

Johnny Hughes · #49 07-19-2007, 08:45 AM

I knew Yang kept talking about Jesus, but I did not think he meant that Jesus.

I don't think it is Ferguson's place to speak up and cost the dealers money. I wonder what the usual tradition at Binion's was all those years??? The dealers did not like Becky and she was accused of taking from them, but I do not recall the details.

realwtf · #50 07-19-2007, 08:48 AM

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Now I am not good at math without chips and cards infront of me but everything that goes into the toke pool must be shared between all dealers for that 11 days and going by CF's number that he stated in the payout room to Jerry means that we should only recieve $214 for 11 days of work? Hmmm that doesnt sound to good to me.

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Nice post. You discount the fact the $214 for 11 days work is only from the First Prize of $8.5 million. There is more then $50 million where 1.8% was taken out to tip the dealers.